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One things' for certain, there's a lot less meat on the front shoulders than the rear shoulders.

I still just don't see what some people have against lung shots...unless our definitions of "lung shots" differ. I always aim tight behind the shoulder (assuming a perfectly broadside shot) and almost always produce a kill with a 0 to 30ish yard death run. I've seen that happen plenty of times with shoulders taken out too. Critters almost always shovel plow forward 10 or so yards when punched through the shoulders IME...so the DRT situation is actually more common on a tight behind the shoulder shot than a center punched shoulder shot, for me at least.

When you all say "lung shot" are you referring to a shot several inches behind the shoulder?

Nor me.

Me either, drill them in the shoulders.

True. Poor word choice.

That's OK! Many have discussed the front shoulders of big game animals, and probably even squirrels and rabbits, inculding editors of well-known national hunting magazines.... :-)

Amen....my first choice every time if possible.

You bet JG, I'll gladly donate a handful of fajita meat for a quick death and no to very little tracking.

It depends on the bullet as to whether the shoulder shot is ethical or not, IMO. A shoulder or shoulders deliberately shot with a C&C bullet proves you have no regard for a big game animal.

A monolithic will do far less meat damage and produce the same immediate drop when shot right through the shoulders...

Not knowing the difference is telling...

Well, It is nice to know that after all of these years, I just found out that I have no regard for big game animals. How does a quick death show lack of regard?

That is stupid statement.

I agree that is a stupid statement...much too broad. There are lots of different sizes of big game animals. And there are lots of different CnC bullets.

It took me 20+ years to recover a 7mm Speer 160g Grand Slam, a quality C&C bullet but C&C nevertheless. They kept going through the deer and elk. (And a few coyotes, prairie dogs and antelope.)

When I did finally recover one it had destroyed both shoulder joints of a 5x5 bull, putting him straight down on the ground.

Those old style grand slams are bad ass.

I got about 130 or so of the .308 200 grainers left for my .300 H&H.

They'll straight up knock a bull's dick in the dirt.

The meat loss due to a C&C through the shoulder is ridiculous compared to a monolithic. I doubt you have seen the difference if you do not understand what I stated.

There is no doubt many C&C bullets will go completely though both shoulders and kill quickly and humanely... the meat wasted in the process is so much more than a monolithic there is no comparison.

If you have not seen it you may want to consider rethinking my "stupid statement."

I used Speer bullets for decades and have put a lot of meat on the ground with them. They do terrible things to meat when placed through the shoulders.

I dang near lost an entire mature buck shot with a TSX. Very small exit hole. Zero blood trail. He made a 90 degree turn after entering the brush. Stumbled across him about a hour later just by luck. He had gone about 200 yards. Very little meat damage. Almost a lot of meat loss. But I guess I had high regard for the animal because I used a mono...

We understand perfectly well what you stated. You essentially say that we have no regard for an animal, if we shoot bullets that destroy some meat. I still say that was a stupid statement, unless you have a better explanation of what you meant.

I have shot elk and deer through the shoulders many times. On an elk, you will lose some, but rarely all of it unless you are shooting a speed demon. On deer, it is irrelevant, as there is a small amount of meat on the front shoulders anyway. I rarely lose both shoulders, even on a deer. I will take a quick kill and no blood trailing over saving a dinky bit of meat any day.

Monos are fine, but I get along real well with Accubonds, Partitions and Interlocks and until I am forced to do it, I will probably not shoot monos.

Again I will remind readers of a I shot a muledeer with a Nosler 7mm partition 175 at a range of about 100 yards. Muzzle velocity was 3,150 feet per second. The bullet took out the arteries above the heart and both lungs. The deer ran about 100 yards angleing away to the right, then turned left and angled away for at least another 200 yards before piling up. Fortunately I was hunting the sage so was able to watch the whole time. If this had been in the timber, I'm sure I would have lost it.

When you shoot a tenacious buck it doesn't make any difference what it is hit with.

Very true, but shot through the shoulders with that bullet and tracking job would have been non-existant.