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Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? Remington725 #11210558 05/27/16
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1Nut Campfire Regular Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,601 A little further North...	Originally Posted by Remington725 Nothing to add here but want another post so I can earn my Bwana merit badge Ditto Nut Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

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Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? ltppowell #11210582 05/27/16
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Blackheart Campfire Ranger B Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,229	Originally Posted by ltppowell Originally Posted by Blackheart What is this "lease fee" you speak of ? For me, it's the $1000 per year I pay to have a camp, water, electricity and 10K acres of private land to hunt, so I don't have to go in the million, or so, acres of public land surrounding it. What's wrong with the public land ?

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? 1Nut #11210596 05/27/16
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MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,402 59644	Originally Posted by 1Nut Originally Posted by Remington725 Nothing to add here but want another post so I can earn my Bwana merit badge Ditto The freezer of meat full even if non-horned uncle's 94 albeit directly resulting... "I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022 Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? Blackheart #11210603 05/27/16
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OP Gus Campfire Ranger G Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 26,337 south of grinder's switch	Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by ltppowell Originally Posted by Blackheart What is this "lease fee" you speak of ? For me, it's the $1000 per year I pay to have a camp, water, electricity and 10K acres of private land to hunt, so I don't have to go in the million, or so, acres of public land surrounding it. What's wrong with the public land ? it might be a worthy effort to see the USF&WS commission a study on the question that you choose to raise? acres available, costs, population of animals, location relative to human populations, days invested per kill, number of hunters per acre, etc. etc. and on and on. the wildlife biologists who follow such comparisons can probably add numerous stats to consider. cost is what comes to my mind, because i grew up poor as hell. in other words, what does it cost to hunt on gov't land, vs private land? not that one is better than the other, but what are the costs? i can buy ground beef from the local Kroger for about $4.00 per pound. what does the US F&WS say the average cost of per pound squirrel, rabbit, turkey, deer, black bear, etc. etc. harvested is? surely, they know, don't they?

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? Gus #11210939 05/27/16
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deerstalker Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 14,038 North of Bonners Ferry ID.	personally i don't care if the cost of store meat was 10% of the cost of procured wild meat. i ranch and i still don't eat most commercial beef. there is stuff going into feedlot beef that scares the heck out of me. plus i have gotten so used to wild game or free range beef that the taste of feedlot beef is off for me. tough once in a while i crave a run down your chin fat hamburger. ps. had to throw in the procured in honor of GUS. Last edited by deerstalker; 05/27/16. the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

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Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? Gus #11211014 05/27/16
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smokinggun Campfire Regular S Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,273 Virginia	Great thread! I hunt away from home with rifles and in the woods beside the house here with a crossbow. It took me a few years to admit to myself the freezer don't need to be full of venison as long as I have them on the hoof right out my back door, that's free storage and guaranteed fresh. P.S. I do concur that the procure is the 30=30 to the .308 and Grandpa swears that the white lightning is cheaper than the store bought with the most octane to the fl oz. for the jug it came out of to go in in direct proportion to the heat of the meat.

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? Gus #11211331 05/27/16
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Angus1895 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 7,733 Idaho	Let me submit.......getting wild meat 4 a married man may not be cost effective. But getting stray cheap wild puss instead will end up costing half..-of everything. So buying legal tags and using an non attached weapon still is economically advisable by most accountants and marriage consulars. "Shoot low sheriff, I think he's riding a shetland!" B. Wills

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? Blackheart #11213008 05/28/16
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ltppowell Campfire Kahuna Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 50,169 SE Texas	Originally Posted by Blackheart Originally Posted by ltppowell Originally Posted by Blackheart What is this "lease fee" you speak of ? For me, it's the $1000 per year I pay to have a camp, water, electricity and 10K acres of private land to hunt, so I don't have to go in the million, or so, acres of public land surrounding it. What's wrong with the public land ? Mostly "public" people. The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? ltppowell #11213456 05/28/16
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milespatton Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 19,097 Arkansas	Quote Mostly "public" people. Figures to be the best answer on any post today. I quit public land long ago, and just hunt my land, for better or worse. Small acreage, but I usually eat meat. miles Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? Gus #11213513 05/28/16
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retrieverman Campfire Regular R Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,154 Texas	I've pretty much quit the "discussion" portions of all hunting forums, but this is an interesting topic that steps on my toes. I'm solely a trophy hunter. I do eat what I kill but don't kill for the meat. I hunt 550 miles from where I live on a piece of property that I inherited which is valued at $750,000. I end up driving around 15,000 miles a year to maintain the property, preparing for hunting, and hunting, and I've done it for 14 years. That doesn't take into account vehicles, trailers, tractors, mowers, a house and barn, etc, etc, etc... The long and short of it is, if I quit hunting, I could probably retire NOW. Nope, not going to happen..... Last edited by retrieverman; 05/28/16.

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Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? retrieverman #11213755 05/29/16
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geedubya Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,096 Texas	retrieverman, Interesting!! My son taught English in Korea for a while, he tells me that the Koreans do not have a word for "similar". He says they say in English, "same, same, but different". I drive 300 miles to my "lease". We have a 1,700 acre pature in the Texas hill country. If you flattened it out, it would probably be in excess of 3,000 acres. I figure it costs me between $300 and $500 a trip depending........ I made four trips during turkey season this year. I figure on a good year, I'll make 20 trips. However, I am a short range meat hunter. Haven't killed a deer in last four years that I recall. However, I do luv trapping, snaring and shooting hoglets. I am retired, but don't ever plan to stop hunting. I've put my order in with the "man upstairs" to let me die in the stand. I've instructed my buds, that if god grants that request, to just roll me out and let the hogs recycle me. Lord knows I've eaten enough of them. LOL Just Another Porker Perforator from Texas GWB A Kill Artist. When I draw, I draw blood.

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? Gus #11213920 05/29/16
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Ubet Campfire Regular U Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 544	quit your sniveling.............a vegetarian is nothing more then a lousy hunter

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? geedubya #11214233 05/29/16
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RelodR Campfire Member R Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 223 Tn	I've put my order in with the "man upstairs" to let me die in the stand. I've instructed my buds, that if god grants that request, to just roll me out and let the hogs recycle me. Lord knows I've eaten enough of them. LOL Best statement I've seen here on the fire in a long time GW! Told the wife to plant me on the back 40 for fertilizer! Take a kid hunting!!! Old member name - Reloader - joined 2001

Re: as a practical meat-hunter, can it still occur, or are we past the common condition? geedubya #11214273 05/29/16
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vacrt2002 Campfire Tracker V Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4,062 Virginia Beach, VA	Same here - 5 hours now to my farm used to be 3. A good year 10x and about 1/4 of the miles on my truck. Moon last year's season. Originally Posted by geedubya retrieverman, Interesting!! My son taught English in Korea for a while, he tells me that the Koreans do not have a word for "similar". He says they say in English, "same, same, but different". I drive 300 miles to my "lease". We have a 1,700 acre pature in the Texas hill country. If you flattened it out, it would probably be in excess of 3,000 acres. I figure it costs me between $300 and $500 a trip depending........ I made four trips during turkey season this year. I figure on a good year, I'll make 20 trips. However, I am a short range meat hunter. Haven't killed a deer in last four years that I recall. However, I do luv trapping, snaring and shooting hoglets. I am retired, but don't ever plan to stop hunting. I've put my order in with the "man upstairs" to let me die in the stand. I've instructed my buds, that if god grants that request, to just roll me out and let the hogs recycle me. Lord knows I've eaten enough of them. LOL Just Another Porker Perforator from Texas GWB Last edited by vacrt2002; 05/29/16. “There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don’t care who gets credit.” R. Reagan

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