24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,260
M
Muffin Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
M
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,260
Anyone have any thoughts or opinions re: this pistol, previous owners.....

any idea on value appreciated, except for the really, really ugly grips found a very nice gun ..... considering.


"...A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box..." Frederick Douglass, 1867

( . Y . )
GB1

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 8,167
T
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
T
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 8,167
The Hardgaller! I make it a point to stay far far away from any early SS 1911, having seen AMTs and Randalls that were either galled so bad the slides rattled enough you wondered if they were gonna fall off or that were galled together stuck like glue.

I'm sure they got the heat treatment right on some of them to prevent the galling issue, but I know for a fact that on some they didn't.

Even if you were to find one that's okay functionally, a newer pistol from Colt, Springfield, Ruger or others will almost surely be a better pistol in regards to fit, finish, reliability and accuracy.

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,260
M
Muffin Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
M
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,260
Thanks...............


"...A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box..." Frederick Douglass, 1867

( . Y . )
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,599
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,599
Way better options for a 1911 out there.


Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,244
G
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
G
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,244
Originally Posted by muffin
Anyone have any thoughts or opinions re: this pistol, previous owners.....

any idea on value appreciated, except for the really, really ugly grips found a very nice gun ..... considering.


Yes, throw it away, I had a stainless longslide back in the late 80's early 90's, it wouldn't function properly.

I sent by snail mail in those days to either Mn. or Wi. to the factory for three brand new magazines, sombitch still wouldn't run right, failure to feed, failure to extract, stovepipe, slide wouldn't lock back after I finally managed to empty a mag.

I was young then and slap full of piss and vinegar stupid, took that pos down to the shop vise, dollied over the cutting torch and with a 5 gal metal bucket underneath cut that mf pos into glowing chunks of worthless stainless.

Guess I wanted to make sure that pos didn't ever cause anyone else any trouble, been called a lot of things, but even I ain't sorry enough to lie and sell that pos to anyone, not even an enemy!



Trump Won!
IC B2

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,519
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,519
The Hardballer the only 1911 I've ever seen, so out far of spec that it would fire with a new Wilson grip safety installed- and that safety not depressed.


Direct Impingement is the Fart Joke of military rifle operating systems. ⓒ
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 11,681
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 11,681
I had a bad one. Traded it back to the guy I bought it from for full value. It was a complete POS. Also had AMT's little .380. It was about as bad as its big brother.


Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,260
M
Muffin Offline OP
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
M
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,260
Thanks guys.............


"...A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box..." Frederick Douglass, 1867

( . Y . )
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 23,453
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 23,453
Quite possibly the worst take or take-off on a 1911 in history.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,626
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,626
Originally Posted by muffin
Anyone have any thoughts or opinions re: this pistol, previous owners.....



Pure POS. Very few guns made that were worse.

MM

IC B3

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,165
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,165
Skeeter Skelton wrote an article on the Hardballer and it sounded like a great 1911. I bought one of the things. It would jam several times per magazine. It never fired more than two shots in a row without jamming. My gunsmith said it was galling bad and the only possible cure would be to have the frame hard chromed. I gave that a try and it seemed to work. The first time I shot a full magazine without a jam, I sold it…

AMT didn't seem too interested in the problems it was having. They told me not to be too worried until I had fired 500 rounds through it to break it in. I asked who was going to pay for all that ammo and the guy hung up the phone on me. Total piece of junk.


Harry
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,469
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,469
Originally Posted by MOGC
I had a bad one. Traded it back to the guy I bought it from for full value. It was a complete POS. Also had AMT's little .380. It was about as bad as its big brother.


Guys, don't forget the Parker semi-auto. Also a complete POS.

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 17,108
V
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
V
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 17,108
And
More
Trouble

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 22,274
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 22,274
Originally Posted by 4ager
Quite possibly the worst take or take-off on a 1911 in history.


Yep. Cool looking pistol, but an utter POS.


"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."


Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

573 members (11point, 007FJ, 12344mag, 160user, 10gaugemag, 06hunter59, 55 invisible), 2,935 guests, and 1,229 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,354
Posts18,468,882
Members73,931
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.136s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.8507 MB (Peak: 0.9570 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-25 21:52:08 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS