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As we have chatted about here before, I like the single pin slider, but hate when it can accidentally be shot when set at the wrong distance. Much like choosing the wrong pin on a multi pin sight. Having a fixed pin removes all doubt about the 20 yard range. When shooting longer the gap between the fixed 20 and the adjustable pin is obvious. With a quick turn of the knob, you're set for the further ranges you need.

After some searching I was able to find a high quality sight with three pins, two fixed and one adjustable. Pretty close to What I was looking for. After getting it, I decided to take off the third pin and have only the two I was looking for. This proved to be quite the effort to take off the third pin. It was like being a watch maker with all the screws and fittings!

However I do have this IQ bow sight now with only two. One set for 20 yards, the other is a slider that can be set for any distance I need exactly to the yard! I am not too happy with the sight light arrangement. It sticks straight out the front of the sight rather then sticking up on top or out the side. I tend to be a brush buster at times, so this is an accident waiting to happen.

Nevertheless, the pins are crazy bright, and the " built in no peep is really an amazing design that allows you to shoot without the peep in the string. My string peep is still installed, but now I have a backup if things go bad. The No peep is also lit up from the sight pin light so it's usable from inside a blind or in bad lighting.

As for the results of the trip, shot a few hogs, none big, but then that makes it harder! The sight with the light was perfect from within the pop up blind which is intentionally kept pitch black inside to hide the people and the movement. Often shooting from inside a pop up can make it near impossible to see the sight pins.

As far as how well made the sight is and durable, well I hunted the Texas and Oklahoma scrub on foot for over a week. Forcing my way through the brush and on hands and knees tracking blood with bow in hand. The weak link is the Mathews quiver. Arrows constantly coming loose. With broadheads on the ends it's not just and inconvenience, it's very dangerous to have one pop out while your pushing through the brush.

I will replace this 10 year old quiver with a Tightspot, which is in my opinion the best bow mounted quiver I've ever used. When I arrived home, I had to put away my gear. I decided to verify my bow accuracy after all the banging and travel involved, This shows the durability of the sight, Although it cost me 15 bucks to verify this!

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I like the Mathews Arrow Webquivers, but that is the exact same reason I quit using them.

I'm not lucky enough to avoid the sharp end of the arrow when it out of the quiver unexpectedly.

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Nice. Loose quivers suck. I have an old one made for AL... a system on a PSE bow... I have to put tape in it to hold carbon arrows if I use them instead of AL.

RE the split, we quit shooting same spot when carbon came... you could split them to quickly... where as AL you had to hit PERFECT to split...

But you are on the money there with that shot for sure.


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I was a user of the no-peep many years ago. I felt is was an excellent device replacing the peep sight. However, the setup was so complicated and the risk of bumping or changing while hunting eventually swayed me away from continued use.

The Company making the IQ sight, as I understand it bought the idea, or somehow acquired this to incorporate into their own bow sight. They have figured out the right way to make this work. It's built into the housing of the sight and has screw adjustable settings for windage and elevation.

With this design, it's a breeze to set up and it's built into the sight so it's now far more durable! One added great benefit is that the use of a sight light makes it clearly visible in total darkness. For those with failing close vision this makes the use of this quite a bit easier then a string Peep, if you struggle with this.

I can see this peep device through my string peep, so I have both and will remain this way leaving it for both devices to be used. I like having them both as a back up for one another.

Okay enough of the fluff...... How does it actually work? I like it, It's function is just as good as the original no-peep however the issues with durability and setup are now gone. It's such an accurate level of the way you're holding the bow, you can see any error that exists instantly. For those who do not understand the way this works, it's like a bubble level, but rather then only a right left adjustment to get the bubble in the middle it requires up down as well putting the bubble in the middle. The bubble can go anyplace in the little dial, however when your holding dead on the money..... the little green spot ( bubble) is dead center in the middle.

I have shot some really great groups with this at longer ranges. I don't see huge improvement at 15-25 yards, however, at 35-50 yards and beyond it's a massive improvement in my group size. There is something that is comforting when holding on target at longer ranges and then seeing your "bubble" aligned properly. When this happens the shot is very good.

As I noticed a decade or more ago this idea was a fantastic concept with the original No-Peep. The issues with the no peep mechanically were not very good. It's a nice additional tool that I can say without question has tightened up my groups at longer ranges for sure.


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Yer costing me a lot of money JJHack! grin

Care to share a link to the exact unit that you got and modded?

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Any word on the sight development we had discussed earlier in the year?


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The manufacturer is figuring it out now, It's what was discussed earlier. However I did really find the IQ sight with two pins exactly what I was looking for, with the added benefit of the built in " no-peep"

That no peep actually turns out to be a very real benefit for me. It's a very nice touch and 100% functional once dialed in.


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I currently shoot a single floating pin sight but I like your thinking on the fixed pin plus one floater JJ. The retina lock feature also sounds great for verifying good form on the longer shots. Unfortunately, it looks like it is not available in left hand. Hopefully they will come out with a lh version later.


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Wow I guess I never realized that there was no lefty version? Surprising they would make only right handed!

What is there like 17% of the population is lefty? One note about my sight that is important to understand. I took off one of the two fixed pins. This is not an easy process. The fiber optics run through the pins and they are a bugger to get right. Also the whole assembly must come apart to get that third pin out. It might be jut as easy to set the second fixed pin to the very bottom of the range and use it for the furthest shots while keeping the adjustable for everything inbetween.

I'm glad I took the time to do it, as I am determined to have what I want on this bow. I want one fixed at 20 yards which works very good from 17-25 yards for big game. The slider starts at 30, and can be dialed to the yard after that. I have it set to hit with flawless accuracy to 50 yards. I think I could get 65ish but have not bothered with that distance. I've never shot any big game over 40, just a turkey at 65 yards ( one time)

I'm not shooting a powerful bow, just 63 lb draw. I think with an ultra high speed bow you could get 80 plus yards with this sight.


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It is fairly common with archery equipment to see the initial offering in right hand only, followed at some later date by the left hand version. Hopefully sooner than later.


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They make a left hand version now. Ordered a rh for myself off ebay.


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There is so much good about this sight, but the way it can be used in low or no light with the built in Bubble level to replace the peep is probably the best takeaway for me. Although I may take for granted now that my shot to shot consistency is flawless with the no peep designed in.


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JJ,

Who designed that bow, Klingons? Compared to the Bear bows I cut my teeth, that rig looks to be from outer space. wink

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Ha ha, that bow is old by " archery talk" standards!

It's a 2004 model. I've replaced all hardware with stainless steel and had the whole thing film dipped with new camo.

Sorta camo. It's dipped in " reaper hog" fitting for my use of it.


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I just bought an IQ bowsight, the extended XT model with a single pin. I find a .10 pin too small for hunting, so moving the sight out 6-8" with a .19 pin allows for pretty precise aiming. I shoot a Bowtech RPM 360, so one pin works fine for the yardages I hunt Whitetails from a treestand.

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Originally Posted by JJHACK
Ha ha, that bow is old by " archery talk" standards!

It's a 2004 model. I've replaced all hardware with stainless steel and had the whole thing film dipped with new camo.

Sorta camo. It's dipped in " reaper hog" fitting for my use of it.
Old? I don't have anything newer than 2001..... still a killing machine too, and only wheels, no cams. LOL. But I still prefer my recurve if I have the choice.


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JJ, i see my work is still holding up. Group shooting is NOT reccomended.


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Originally Posted by JJHACK
There is so much good about this sight, but the way it can be used in low or no light with the built in Bubble level to replace the peep is probably the best takeaway for me. Although I may take for granted now that my shot to shot consistency is flawless with the no peep designed in.


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