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Re: Model 70 vs 84M Brad #11231847 06/06/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Brad, I'll throw in another 2 cents. The M70 is assembled in Portugal, technically not made in Portugal....like many Brownings have been for years...including the Hi-Power and no one winces at them. IMHO the FN built Model 70s are as good or better than any model 70 ever built ( That oughta draw some ire! ) I did prefer the old trigger though.... There....that oughta get the mud in the puddle stirred back up.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: Model 70 vs 84M BobinNH #11231860 06/06/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by BobinNH But it's kinda funny to hear these criticism of the FW stock on here when the place runs amok with those silly McSwirleys in those ridiculous color blends. You gotta be a [bleep] just to order one of those things. What nightmares! Talk about gay stocks! LOL! Bob! My feelers are hurt! Is THAT the reason they call this the McFlame? I will fill out one of these...who shall I submit it too? "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Brad #11231863 06/06/16
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana
BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Originally Posted by Brad Bob, do you really think the Portuguese-made M70 of today is the same as the USA made M70 of yester-year? Brad no they stopped making M70's in 1964..... Which is what makes these conversations so difficult. But I will toss the Classic a bone. They ain't half bad if tuned up proper. But I beg off as soon as they pulled the old trigger. Dakota? Anyone? Actually though the new ones are supposed to have the most uniform receivers of them all. I could like them but the trigger is a turn off. I also wish they'd name them something else. Last edited by BobinNH; 06/06/16. The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Model 70 vs 84M ingwe #11231879 06/06/16
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana
BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900	Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by BobinNH But it's kinda funny to hear these criticism of the FW stock on here when the place runs amok with those silly McSwirleys in those ridiculous color blends. You gotta be a [bleep] just to order one of those things. What nightmares! Talk about gay stocks! LOL! Bob! My feelers are hurt! Is THAT the reason they call this the McFlame? I will fill out one of these...who shall I submit it too? Laffin...... The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Old_Doe_Shooter #11231881 06/06/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,271 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,271 Back in Texas, for good!	This one is pretty, and shoots decently. I've done nothing to it, not even check the bedding. This one is a Kim-Nor. It shoots very well... I do have a M70 Super Grade in 7mm mag, and it's a nice rifle, too. I think I like the M70's for bigger calibers, than the svelte little Kimbers... "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

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Re: Model 70 vs 84M BobinNH #11232055 06/06/16
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,132 TC1 Campfire Tracker
TC1 Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,132	A few pictures of my one and only Kimber purchase. I didn't save any pictures of the action but it didn't fit any better. IMO, they suck. The rifle was returned to Kimber for a new stock. When returned the new stock looked a little better but they destroyed the metal finish doing it. It looked like someone tied a string to the barreled action and dragged it around the shop a couple of times. After my experience with this rifle and their C/S I have no use for the them or their products. For me it would be a M70. Terry

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Old_Doe_Shooter #11232176 06/07/16
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Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	Originally Posted by Old_Doe_Shooter I know this has probably been an old topic but I can never get "search" to work. Your cash... Winchester 70 featherweight or Kimber classic 84M. Any other suggestions? ty in adv You must handle the rifles yourself and see how they feel and look to you. They are entirely different. The old M70 Featherweight has a thick feeling stock and is heavier. Even it's LOP feels long. It' goes 7# 11oz with an old 4X. The Kimber is a much smaller handy rifle. It feels small in my hands. It goes 6# 1 ounce! with it's 2.5-8 Leu.

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Old_Doe_Shooter #11232179 06/07/16
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,995 Cave Creek, AZ Blacktailer Campfire Tracker
Blacktailer Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,995 Cave Creek, AZ	So the answer to the OP's question is you better buy one of each. I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all. Jack O'Connor

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Blacktailer #11232375 06/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Dat is a WHOPPER Blackbuck! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Model 70 vs 84M TC1 #11232390 06/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by TC1 A few pictures of my one and only Kimber purchase. I didn't save any pictures of the action but it didn't fit any better. IMO, they suck. Terry WOW! You got one of the GOOD ones! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: Model 70 vs 84M ingwe #11232418 06/07/16
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,842 R RevMike Campfire Tracker
RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,842	Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by TC1 A few pictures of my one and only Kimber purchase. I didn't save any pictures of the action but it didn't fit any better. IMO, they suck. Terry WOW! You got one of the GOOD ones! What do you expect? From the receipt it looks like he bought it at Sam's. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Old_Doe_Shooter #11232453 06/07/16
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TC1 Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,132	I expected a lot more for a $1000.00 rifle.

Re: Model 70 vs 84M ingwe #11233090 06/07/16
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico	Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by BobinNH But it's kinda funny to hear these criticism of the FW stock on here when the place runs amok with those silly McSwirleys in those ridiculous color blends. You gotta be a [bleep] just to order one of those things. What nightmares! Talk about gay stocks! LOL! Bob! My feelers are hurt! Is THAT the reason they call this the McFlame? I will fill out one of these...who shall I submit it too? Send it to me and I'll put it in the proper file. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Old_Doe_Shooter #11233223 06/07/16
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Terryk Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 6,449 Mountains of Central PA	Featherweight would be safer bet for accuracy.

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Terryk #11233290 06/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by Terryk Featherweight would be safer bet for accuracy. And proper functioning.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Model 70 vs 84M elkhunternm #11233292 06/07/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by elkhunternm Originally Posted by ingwe Originally Posted by BobinNH But it's kinda funny to hear these criticism of the FW stock on here when the place runs amok with those silly McSwirleys in those ridiculous color blends. You gotta be a [bleep] just to order one of those things. What nightmares! Talk about gay stocks! LOL! Bob! My feelers are hurt! Is THAT the reason they call this the McFlame? I will fill out one of these...who shall I submit it too? Send it to me and I'll put it in the proper file. Thanx! I knew you'd come thru for me! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Old_Doe_Shooter #11233365 06/07/16
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico	You're welcome! Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: Model 70 vs 84M tex_n_cal #11233382 06/07/16
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,015 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,015 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by tex_n_cal This one is pretty, and shoots decently. I've done nothing to it, not even check the bedding. This one is a Kim-Nor. It shoots very well... I do have a M70 Super Grade in 7mm mag, and it's a nice rifle, too. I think I like the M70's for bigger calibers, than the svelte little Kimbers... Like your Kim-Nor. I have a Kim-Bro, Broughton 5C. Great way to make a Kimber shoot... M-70 NH Classic .375 H&H. Great shooter, shortened barrel because of weight. "Nor/Bro" not needed.

Re: Model 70 vs 84M Dirtfarmer #11233448 06/07/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,271 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,271 Back in Texas, for good!	Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer Like your Kim-Nor. I have a Kim-Bro, Broughton 5C. Great way to make a Kimber shoot... If you ever shorten the barrel you can have a KimBro Slice... "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Model 70 vs 84M tex_n_cal #11233492 06/07/16
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,015 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,015 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by tex_n_cal Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer Like your Kim-Nor. I have a Kim-Bro, Broughton 5C. Great way to make a Kimber shoot... If you ever shorten the barrel you can have a KimBro Slice... It's the Fire Kosher length of 23"... Just need blue tape wrapped around the barrel... DF

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