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Thought you all might like to see this and perhaps give some feedback on my channel. Thanks everyone.


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Wow. Not a shot I'd have taken at all, if you wanted comments. LOL.

Great video clip though.

I"ve seen a few come flying in like that, all young small bulls. But it was very rare the years we bowhunted, to see that. I never shot one, as I never got what I wanted for a shot, but my buddy did a few times.



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Originally Posted by rost495
Wow. Not a shot I'd have taken at all, if you wanted comments.


Did you see the part where he said he was off to the right of the camera?



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Yes. I also saw a really hard raking shot that seemed to get about only half the arrow in there.

Obviously I may owe him an apology, but it sure didn't look like good penetration at all to me.

But then I pretty much shoot arrows heavy enough to expect the arrow to go away and through when I shoot.

But maybe it hit the off side shoulder.

Its the one thing I never liked about archery elk, you often had minor time to make a major decision and shoot if they were coming to a call.


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great video.


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Hey thanks guys. It was a tough choice to make in the moment when you see this nice 5x5 bull coming in to your calls. You saw the stand-off in the video. I was draw back about 30 seconds total.

It's 20 seconds from when he jumps back a little to when I shoot. Those 20 seconds were filled with a lot of thoughts and emotions. I waited and waited, hoping he would move into a little better position. Then my buddy says "shoot Mark" and I think that must have put me over the top to let it fly. I appreciate the feedback from everyone. I just thought it was a video that many would like to see.

Should have kept my monologue at the beginning to about 60 seconds. Oops. Less almost always seems to be more. Anyway, thanks for watching.

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Recon - the video is good. Never a bad thing to see a bull fired up and coming in.

Most of us hate to make arm-chair QB calls on these, it's too easy to slam down on a situation that we can't see but a micro- piece of.

Two things pop out to me:

First, your camera man appears to be fighting the camera set up, the frame keeps drifting right and he's continuously fighting to keep it on the animal. It looks like the movement is what caused the bull to alert, stop, and spin.

Second, If the animal was 20 yards away, and you are 10 or less yards to the right, you shot angle was in the nieghborhood of 30 degrees or less into ribs. Looks like the bull was pretty much butt on to the camera. A 30 degree shot on a large animal rib cage is tough shot for any archer.

I'm guessing this was your potential first bow kill of a big game animal, and that's working against you as well in having to make a snap decision. I've made bad shots as a new archer that I wish I could have back. But, you learn from each encounter, build your experience, and learn the tactical patience will will get you a clean shot to a quick kill.

I think your broad head choice is fine, draw poundage is good. I shoot a Slick Trick is a similar design and size, my buddy shoots Montec G-5s with no issues. You don't mention the weight of your arrows, most will argue that heavier is better.

Sorry you lost the animal, that's a sick feeling no matter what. But, good on you for the courage for posting and seeking feedback.

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Originally Posted by rost495
Yes. I also saw a really hard raking shot that seemed to get about only half the arrow in there.

Obviously I may owe him an apology, but it sure didn't look like good penetration at all to me.

But then I pretty much shoot arrows heavy enough to expect the arrow to go away and through when I shoot.

But maybe it hit the off side shoulder.

Its the one thing I never liked about archery elk, you often had minor time to make a major decision and shoot if they were coming to a call.


You sound very experienced, have you arrowed a lot of elk?



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Did you recover the bull??

If so, pics man, pics!!

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I'd of taken the shot.

Learn from it and hunt on.

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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by rost495
Yes. I also saw a really hard raking shot that seemed to get about only half the arrow in there.

Obviously I may owe him an apology, but it sure didn't look like good penetration at all to me.

But then I pretty much shoot arrows heavy enough to expect the arrow to go away and through when I shoot.

But maybe it hit the off side shoulder.

Its the one thing I never liked about archery elk, you often had minor time to make a major decision and shoot if they were coming to a call.


You sound very experienced, have you arrowed a lot of elk?

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I can read fine. Arrowed a lot of elk then?



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Then you know the answer. I can tell that this won't go well for whatever reason.

Never mind knowledge of archery and a few archery kills under my belt.

At least we have yet again another lottery winner today.


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Originally Posted by rost495
Then you know the answer. I can tell that this won't go well for whatever reason.


Why would you say that, it's going fine. The OP asked for feedback and got it. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and he asked for them.

Personally, I couldn't see enough in the video to comment on the shot choice. Not being there and all. So if I was the OP and read your post questioning the shot choice I'd want to know your level of experience with the subject at hand.

If it's substantial I'd want to know that.

If it's zero, I'd want to know that too.



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So if I was the OP and read your post questioning the shot choice I'd want to know your level of experience with the subject at hand.


Since you're not the OP why did you ask, then?


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Since you're not the OP, why do you care?

I asked because the OP is new here, seems like a straight-up guy, and deserves to know the level of experience of someone who questions his judgment.



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A couple things:

I don't know the angle you shot from, but it does look too shallow from the rear, but if the angle was better than the video shows, I would have expected a better outcome.

I wouldn't show that video to the public for the reasons you mention. No one wants to witness a lost bull elk, it does happen, but critics are always above doing that...


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I asked because the OP is new here, seems like a straight-up guy, and deserves to know the level of experience of someone who questions his judgment.


He signed up and posted without your help. Do you think he is incompetent to do a followup if he wanted?


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No, I think he's a new guy I chose to help out by bringing to light the fact that the guy who questioned his judgement has never shot an elk.

Does that offend or otherwise concern you?



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