Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Thinking of extended riser instead of one piece scope mount. Any reason not to?

this was pretty tough to arrange and will probably fall off...but i'll deal with it to get ER and ring spacing latitude.

What rings give you enough forward placement of the scope to get proper eye relief on an AR?

Mine sit at least 1 3/4" - 2" ahead of the charging handle.

YEs it does work and it will work with the AR's also but there is always a chance of it loosening and with the quality selection of AR mounts I just don't see the need. I like the concept of Ruger and Sako bases made right into the receiver.

Maybe you guys have me on ignore but he's already tried the Armalite mount and it was too high for him. In my experience, that means an extended riser and rings to suit.

Unless you guys know of a lower one piece mount. Anyone?



Toad that is a whole lot of screws to bolt together, I don't know how you did it... LOL

How about just rings that fit the Picitiny rail instead of using a riser and rings? Say using medium or high mounts right to the picitiny rails on the gun?

Doesn't get the scope far enough forward.

Off the top of my head, ADM makes one, the Recon X. LaRue makes one also, the SPR-E. There are others but those two are the ones I am most familiar with.

The standard Recon and SPR mounts have worked for me though. I haven't found a need for a extra long one. Most of my optics sit just forward of the charging handle with a standard AR LOP.

As mentioned, Badger Ordnance makes one. ADM and Nightforce make them also. I'm sure there are more that I'm missing.

How about a link, I sure can't find one any lower that retains the forward shift.

Remember the Armalite is 1.25" to center line of scope.

1.25" is low, real low.

http://www.badgerordnance.com/unimounts/34-mm-1-piece-unimount-extra-high-1-3-high-4-625-long.html

https://www.triadtactical.com/Badger-Unimounts.html

The Nightforce is 1.375" to center line.
The ADM recon 1" is 1.380" to center line.

That's all I could find as well so he's out of luck on one piece mounts if the Armalite is too high for him.

Yeah, thats odd for that mount to be too high. I'd be interested to see a picture of him shouldering the rifle.

I never said it was nirvana, just pointing out its not going to be any worse than other setups....

I know a Troy BUIS won't fit under one without modification.

But I have had people ask me about lower mounts before and I just didn't know of any. Although I think it's more due to an unusual height over the bore compared to a bolt gun than a fitment issue with most.

Armalite at 1.25" works just right for me. Perfect height. To add to the confusion... Armalite now makes a 1.5" high version.

I have never handled the 1.3 or so models, I do know that the SSALT is too high for my face/head.

I generally end up prone at the dairy farm shooting ground hogs so maybe that adds to my experience... I dunno.

Thanks a million for all the feedback.

Bob, I think these high mounts must be for close & fast shooting, because they sure ain't any good for prone. Maybe there is some other reason (co-witnessing, etc) that doesn't have to do with ergonomics.

When 90% of the good AR mounts are close to the same height, you would think they were on to something. I'm sure if a 1.25" height mount were "ideal," then LaRue, Badger, Geissele, and Nightforce would offer one.

I guess if you are trying to shoot NTCH with a scope you might run into some issues with mounts though.

It's funny that the irons are 1.4" above the rail same as LaRue mounts and most others.

But yes they do fine with close and fast shooting.

"When 90% of the good AR mounts are close to the same height, you would think they were on to something."

HA!

Without doubt I am an odd duck; on more than one count too! LOL

Aero Precision has monolithic mid length uppers in stock right now and I am sorely tempted to pull the trigger on one or two.

sight height has to also be related to head/face structure to an extent and to how you mount the gun etc...

I have a couple guns with only extra high rings on hunting guns, and no riser and I do just fine with them. Not ideal but still do just fine.

a lot like an 870 fits a LOT of folks for pull/cant etc... its certainly not for everyone.