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Over the years I've acquired some pretty awesome Winchesters but as I was going through the gun safe today I realized I never use them. I am torn between just selling all of them including the Pre 64 featherweight 264 win mag, the pre 64 featherweight 270 that I just bought, the model 12 12 gauge and the model 94 .30WCF. I also have Roger Rules book and quite a bit of ammo and brass for the 264.

If I sell it all would it be better to just sell it all as a package or sell each piece individually? Talk me down off the ledge or push me off of it. I am just trying to organize everything and that includes getting rid of a lot of stuff.

If it's all right with you guys I may get some pictures up to help get a better understanding of value before I make a decision. I've always placed a value on the opinions posted in this forum and I know y'all won't steer me wrong

Thanks guys

Pre 64 264 Win Mag featherweight...





More when I get to the house...

Nice heater but I only do half of your original question.............. Collect em and "HUNT THE HELL OUTTA EM!" is what I do.

If you sell them, you will probably get more by sell them one by one vs selling as a lot.

Let me know if you want to sell the Rules book...

This.

I can't imagine getting more as a package. That 270 FWT will certainly sell quickly, if priced right. In fact, I would buy it back from you for what I sold it for.

donsm70

Sell them individually for the greatest return. I sold all of my pre-64's a few years ago. I kept the nicest action, a '56 standard .270 that shoots well as is but is slated to become a custom rifle in the fullness of time. Frankly, I enjoyed the proceeds of those sales more than I enjoyed the thought of those rifles sitting in my safe.

Model 94 30WCF









Roger Rule book...

I don't have a lot any more but i am keeping what I have and continuing to hunt with them.

Not that I really ever stopped.

Don't panic, the feeling will pass.

Not sure what they are worth, but I'd be interested in discussing the 264 if you decide to sell.

Keep em.. Use em. Enjoy.. They will make no more, and you are making money each day..

I appreciate the stocks I bought from you because of your selling off your pre 64's too...

Drummond, hopefully you will come to your senses. Whichever that direction may be. I agree with the others that said to sell them individually. You'll get more money from them that way. If you want more money, don't sell them to your buds here. Go to gunsinternational or gunbroker and let the ego maniacs bid the price up on them...

Drummond, I have a question. Are you thinking about going to 1 do it all rifle or a 3 rifle battery or something like that? If you could only have 1 rifle, what would it be???

I have other rifles that have more sentimental value to me because my dad gave them to me. Right now I'm thinking I'll keep the following:

223 Tikka Superlite
243 Remington 700 ADL
25-06 Remington 700 in Bansner stock
270 XTR Featherweight
7-08 Kimber Montana
280 Ackley Kimber Montana
300RUM Remington 700
45-70 JM stamped Marlin guide gun

This will cover me for the rest of my life and then some. I may sell some of these as well but for now I'll sell the rifles I don't ever use or see myself using and I may sell the 280 Ackley and the Marlin as well.

To answer your original question about 1 rifle I just don't know. That little 7-08 can "do it all" but so could the 270. I don't see myself going to just one rifle but I certainly don't need all I have in the safe. It's a bit ridiculous at the moment

Gotcha, just had to test your "looney" status...

So if I list these on GB or Guns International do I need to set a reserve or how does that work?

I certainly don't mind giving guys here first right of refusal if I decide to sell them. I like the people here and I think they respect what they are. I'd rather sell to somebody that will keep them original. Any thoughts on pricing them? I'll start with the two featherweights

When I list on GB, I have a starting price. That price is the minimum I'd accept for the rifle: The no haggling price so to speak. From there, it should go up. Just depends on who's watching it, how many beers they've had, how late at night it is, and who's go the biggest ego and wallet... The best thing to do as far as pricing them goes, is find someone that has a good rifle values book. I use the red book of Winchester values, as it is a very good example of "real world" values. This keeps you from getting burned. I also don't pay attention to what I paid for the rifle, but what it's actually worth. I know what you paid for many of your rifles, but that doesn't mean you can't sell them for more than what you paid. . This forum is also a great place for this kind of stuff to come up for discussion. You can ask us what we think the value is for each rifle if you want. Some of us may be high, some of us low if we don't regularly frequent gunshows or watch GB for final sales prices.

Don't get me wrong, I've passed on a few good deals to some buddies here on this forum and that can be rewarding in itself. Even more so than wads of money in the wallet.....

So what would you feel a fair asking price would be for the 264 Win Mag...

I'd keep at least one pre-64 Win M70. Probably the 270 FWT.

Definitely don't sell your rifles as a lot.

Eric

I can attest to that, BSA!!

I am leaning towards keeping the pre 64 270 FWT and selling the other two that I have that are the push feeds.

Good call!

Drummond here is a pre 64 FW 270 and Brown PoundR put together in the 80's,and hunted all over the west.


After 3 barrels and two paint jobs,and lots of animals, it is still trucking.

You may be set for life.

If the bore of that 264 looks as good as the externals appear to be, I'd appreciate the chance at a shot at it, when you decide what you want to get.

I had one like it many years ago, and foolishly sold it. I know the consensus is that a 264 and a 22" barrel is a terrible mismatch. And I can't disagree. I just have an affinity for the odd balls. Thanks, ST

VERY wise decision....

Sweet looking 264. I've always liked this one. The featherweight westerner is a rare bird. Only 3,116 made. A 98% condition specimen has a value of $2,800.00. A 90% condition rifle has a value of $2,100.00 according to my favorite values book. The only thing I'd question on your rifle is the recoil pad. However, like I told you the first day you brought that rifle home and showed it to us, "look on page 83 of the rifleman's rifle book". Roger Rule shows us a clean example of a featherweight westerner and it looks exactly like your rifle. Even down to the same recoil pad. Funny how a $50.00 recoil pad could make a $500.00 difference in the price tag, but it can in this instance. If the recoil pad is original, I'd put a price tag on the rifle of $2400.00. If not, I'd price it at around $1,900.00 and someone would get a great deal on a super nice rare rifle. If you are feeling extremely generous, drop the price a bit for the gentleman here who seems interested in the rifle so you can both be happy with the deal...However, If it were me, I'd probably not go below $1,800.00 for that rifle... The consensus may differ, but that's the way I see it. Where the hell is winpoor at anyway? He'd be a good one to chime in. He's bought a whole hell of a lot of pre 64's in the past...

There are at least 4 in that stack I wouldn't mind having. But, darn Kimber for not making a LH Montana.

Better pictures to see what it is. I haven't spent any time cleaning or oiling it, I just pulled it out of the safe and snapped a few pictures

That recoil pad looks original to me. Nice looking fwt westerner buddy...

I agree with BSA. It looks identical to the .264 FWT I had. As impractical as a 22" barreled .264 WM might seem, it shot great. Every time I see another I wonder why I sold it.

That one looks very nice.

I have given thought to selling off my M70 collection a time or two as well. Who know what tomorrow's gun collector will be or if there will even be one. Then I think I'll just enjoy them and if the value goes in the crapper it will just stiff the heirs.

I would sell a stash of delectables like that, but only to help fund another toy such as, for example, if I found a '64 Austin-Healey with my name on it.

I'd sell them off for a month in Tanzania:)

I own only one rifle which happens to be Winchester 70 ca 1959 and that is all I need rifle wise. I would keep the one you're going to use the most and sell the rest. With early post WWII generation getting older the market isn't going to get any better than it is now. Now is the time to act.
I show Canadian good alternative to goofing around with old .300H&H as candidate for caliber change. The gun happened to be $1700 Browning Safari Grade .375H&H made in Belgium. I see no sign of salt seeping out around x-bolts so likely the rifle is very fair deal. Let us be honest and admit that long-extractor FN Mauser actioned Browning is at least as good as pre-64 Model 70.

Just posted the 264 FWT and the Roger Rule book for sale in the classifieds. Thank you guys for all of your help...

Keep the pre64 FWT in 270. You'll never regret that.
Pair it with the Montana in 7-08. You're set at that point.

Get rid of the detritus in the safe.

Huntsonora: On the rare occasions that I trade or even rarer, SELL, a pre-64 Winchester I do so one at a time and I make sure I get the GOOD end of the deal.
Your arms are valuable so don't "give" them away IF you do sell them at all.
Personally, I would keep them and add to them.
And, personally, I would NOT shoot them if you are interested in maximizing their future worth.
Get rid of your OTHER "stuff".
Best of luck what ever you decide.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Well. Couldn't contain myself. The sweet little p64 264 is now in my hands. and it is just as Drummond advertised. Actually, it's a little too nice for me. I'm more of a shooter than a collector. So I prefer to find them with a few scratches and maybe an aftermarket pad.

But this one will get hunted, just hunted very gently.

My plan is to use 4350 to push 125 PT's to about 3000fps, which the 264 can obviously do without breaking a sweat. That should put it right in between the 130gr 270 and the 120gr 25/06...just abut perfection for south Texas deer. without too much bark from the 22" barrel.

Thanks, Drummond for lightening my wallet.

Southtexas, good snag!!!

I am really happy that you like it! I'm also happy that it found the right home. If for any reason you find it's not the right rifle for you just let me know and I'll send you a refund

Thanks for everything and please enjoy it and send pictures when you tip something over