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Hey, Bob!

The 1956 Savage M99 I bought last month has a POS 4X scope on it I'm looking to get rid of, if you're interested... It's called a "K4". It's one of them Jack Weaver scopes, I guess. Can't imagine anybody wanting one in this day and age, but I know you're kinda tetched in the haid, so I might could make you a deal.

I could buy me one of them new Leupy 1.5-33X variables then...


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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Yeah, I really miss the trigger and, especially, floorplate on the 54!


Point taken!

Actually, I'm totally at home with a military-style two stage trigger so the 54 trigger doesn't bother me in the least. The solid floor plate is another matter though. But in reality it's not a handicap. The rifles I own/owned with hinged floor plates allowed for quick and simple unloading, but usually with one or two cartridges ending up on the ground anyway. Having grown up with Springfields and Mausers, I take short-stroking the bolt to empty the magazine as another given in life.


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Doc thanks...but I am a M8 4X guy and kinda like the 4X Conquest as well, of which I have two right now. smile


Your psychological profile of me is very accurate but I have heard it before..... wink smile


Brit: Yes you are right. The new rifles are kinda push button.

But I look at the wood on most pre 64's,sigh, puke,and replace the stocks..

Hell they last a long time. smile


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I am a long time user and great fan pre-64 Mod.70., but I will admit that some of the latest Mod.70 look and feel just as good as some of the pre-64's That said, all Mod.70's have a serious flaw, they allow gas to escape through the bolt assembly to the shooters face and eyes should there be a catastrophic case failure. I know this because I have witnessed it.

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Originally Posted by super T
I am a long time user and great fan pre-64 Mod.70., but I will admit that some of the latest Mod.70 look and feel just as good as some of the pre-64's That said, all Mod.70's have a serious flaw, they allow gas to escape through the bolt assembly to the shooters face and eyes should there be a catastrophic case failure. I know this because I have witnessed it.


When the Classic was introduced, one of the improvements over the pre-64 was a gas block mounted opposite the extractor to reduce gas from flowing back through the left raceway. In addition, later Classics also had a gas flange on the left side of the bolt shroud to deflect any gases which came through the left raceway away from the shooters face. Post New Haven Model 70's incorporate both these features. But, are you saying gas comes through the interior of the bolt, past the firing pin?


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Mudstud, sorry about the slow reply. The rifle in question was likely manufactured in the 90's. Moreover, I am unaware of the improvements you describe. I hope they work. I'm not sure how the gas and metal particles found their way to my brothers face and right eye, but they certainly did. The cause of the accident has never been determined. The ammo was factory stuff. The rifle was put together by a nationally know gun builder who has a fine reputation. The rifle at his request was sent to him for inspection, but he could not come up with a definite cause. The rifle is a 300WM. I'm thinking it was a plugged bore because we were hunting mud and snow, but who knows.

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I've had a few pre 64 model 70's and a couple of the FN made versions. NONE of the pre 64's shot as well as the FN versions.

I've got a SS Extreme Weather in 270, factory MOA trigger (adjusted to 3 lbs) that has shot several sub 1/4" 3 shot 100 yard groups, the best being .140

I like the pre 64's and still have a couple but IMO the FN versions leave nothing to be desired.

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Originally Posted by RevMike
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Just a quick note to say how much I enjoyed your article on the 80th birthday of the Model 70. But I must say, you're going to stir a hornet's nest here on the 'Fire by insinuating that the current iteration is (perhaps) the best one yet.

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I got a complimentary copy in the mail, apparently they're running a promotion to generate more subscriptions. Good read, and a pleasant surprise.



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I've looked in several stores. Found Outdoor Life, Field and Stream. Can't find a Sports Afield anywhere.

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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Ah, the Model 70 is just a passing fad that will never catch on. I'm waiting for them to come to their senses and revive the Model 54. whistle smile

Amen! Especially the Pre '34.


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I've got five of them and each one needed an Ernie spring to get the MOA trigger pull down to three pounds. One of them still needs some honing to stop the trigger creep.

The glue locking the screw comes right off if you hit them with heat. It doesn't take much. Even a hair dryer works.


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Originally Posted by MichiganScott
The glue locking the screw comes right off if you hit them with heat. It doesn't take much. Even a hair dryer works.


I sure wish I'd have thought of that instead of incurring the wrath of Mrs. Rev for having ruined one of her small crochet hooks.


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Hairdryers? Crochet hooks?


Geezus... sick crazy

With a real trigger, you use a wrench...and screwdriver. cool

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Good one, Bob.

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Good one, Bob.


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The 280 Remington is overbore.

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Originally Posted by shrapnel

A friend of mine just gave me a copy of Sports Afield. I hadn't seen a copy in a long time. They have certainly done a nice job with the publication and although I may never go to Africa, I might subscribe just because I didn't see a single Glock or AR platform in the whole magazine...


Amen! Of course they'll only sell ten or twenty copies with the absence of AR's & Glocks according to some folks.


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Re the new Model 70's. I've handled a few of their supergrades. The finish on their receivers is just as horrible as anything produced in the last 30 years. It's aweful. Yes they are shiny, and that's about all that anyone will notice anyway.

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Have you seen anything better in that price range?

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Originally Posted by pathfinder76
Re the new Model 70's. I've handled a few of their supergrades. The finish on their receivers is just as horrible as anything produced in the last 30 years. It's aweful. Yes they are shiny, and that's about all that anyone will notice anyway.


Owned one? Shot one? Worked with one? Or just handled one? Not being contentious; just trying to clarify.


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