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What would be good deer bullets for the 358 Win? Is the speed too slow for the 225gr Sierra for proper expansion?

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Have heard the 225 Sierras to be pretty thick jacketed, 200 gr TTSX's and RL-10 powder are magic on deer and pigs in my 358 Ruger S/S.


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I plan to use 200 TTSX when I get mine put together. They seem to be the sweet spot. 180s open to 1900, 200s down to 1800, and 225s down the 1600. I'm just not sure you can push 225s fast enough.

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How about the 200 grain Interlock?

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Originally Posted by mathman
How about the 200 grain Interlock?


I have 50 loaded up but have not put them to the test yet.


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If you have the magazine space the 200 gr Accubond is tough to beat. It helps to have more than the typical 2.800" magazine of some short actions.


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Originally Posted by mathman
How about the 200 grain Interlock?


The spire point version is the only bullet I have ever used for deer hunting since I bought my 358 back in 1979.

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I am shooting a single shot TC Encore so magazine space isn't a concern. I am currently shooting 200 gr hornady factory loads.

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I am shooting the 180 gr Hornady Interlock spitzer and the 180 gr Speer .35. I put a spitzer meplat on their 180 gr FP with a tool my late dad made for me.

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Originally Posted by JP_Lucas
I am shooting a single shot TC Encore so magazine space isn't a concern. I am currently shooting 200 gr hornady factory loads.


The Accubond's sometimes like to be seated deep so if you find a promising load a little tweaking can go a long way. The 200's are probably my favourite 35 cal bullet although I shoot them in a Whelen. The dummy rounds I made in 358 show it is a tight fit in a short action but thankfully you won't have that issue.......

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I use the 200 gr Hornady Spire point.


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I have taken whitetail deer with 225 grain Sierra and Nosler bullets in my .35 Whelen. Both worked well, however due to OAL and velocity concerns in the .358 I would opt for a 200 grain bullet. There are lots of good choices out there, though if you are happy with the Hornady spire point I see no reason to change.

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200 Hornady PSP shoots great and has been effective on our whitetails.

The 220 Speer shoots just over 1" @ 2455fps with 3031, no kills yet.

The 225 Accubond was 1" average @ 2428fps with H4895.



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OAL and velocity concerns with the 225 Partition? It's easy to get 2400-2500 fps from that bullet in a .358 with the bullet seated to the standard short-magazine OAL.

While not needed for deer, the 225 Partition kills them just fine, due to the soft front core of ALL Nosler Partitions.


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I think the 200gr TSX and 225gr Partition (depending on your tastes) are the 2 best picks for the 358 Win for ALL AROUND use.


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Originally Posted by tarheelpwr
I plan to use 200 TTSX when I get mine put together. They seem to be the sweet spot. 180s open to 1900, 200s down to 1800, and 225s down the 1600. I'm just not sure you can push 225s fast enough.


Are you saying 1600 fps is as fast as the 358 Win will push a 225?

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I have used the 225g Nosler PT on deer with excellent results. Expansion, penetration. I have loaded the 225g Sierra, but haven't used it on game yet. Similar accuracy with both.

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by tarheelpwr
I plan to use 200 TTSX when I get mine put together. They seem to be the sweet spot. 180s open to 1900, 200s down to 1800, and 225s down the 1600. I'm just not sure you can push 225s fast enough.


Are you saying 1600 fps is as fast as the 358 Win will push a 225?




I think he means for 1600fps is the minimum for expansion


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Originally Posted by Bearcat74
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Originally Posted by tarheelpwr
I plan to use 200 TTSX when I get mine put together. They seem to be the sweet spot. 180s open to 1900, 200s down to 1800, and 225s down the 1600. I'm just not sure you can push 225s fast enough.


Are you saying 1600 fps is as fast as the 358 Win will push a 225?




I think he means for 1600fps is the minimum for expansion


Yes,but then he says he isn't sure the 225's can be pushed fast enough. Maybe he meant they can't be pushed too fast.

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Originally Posted by JP_Lucas
What would be good deer bullets for the 358 Win? Is the speed too slow for the 225gr Sierra for proper expansion?


200 Hornady is my fav for deer. Been shooting them since about 1985. Have never kept one in a deer yet no matter the angle. Good accuracy and expansion. You do NOT need premium bullets in this cal for deer!


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