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Well by that logic the First amendment was written when there were only lever operated, one page at a time printing presses and ink wells and quill pens, think about that for a minute!

As someone pointed out earlier, when the 1st amendment was written, it was printed on a hand operated flat bed press that produced only a single copy at a time.

F'ckin A!

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The purpose of the second amendment is to ensure that we can "bear arms" and use them to form "well regulated militias" and defend our "free State". I swore a pledge "to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic". Everyone who has served in the military, every officer of the court, every public official, every naturalized citizen, has also sworn the same oath.

In order to do that, we need weapons that are as potent as those that the enemies of freedom possess. We have already lost most of the potency of the second amendment because people have forgotten the true purpose. The enemies of freedom possess fully automatic weapons both carbines and heavy machine guns, artillery, mortars, and RPGs. They also possess explosives such as Claymores, hand grenades, satchel charges, IEDs, etc. Plus tanks, fighter jets, attack helicopters, guided missiles, and attack drones. Someday Americans will need all of those weapons to defend freedom.

I just attended the wedding of my niece, in Kalifornia. While there my other niece said "surely we can take away assault weapons. Nobody needs one of those. Do they?" I was so dumbfounded by her ignorance that I regretfully didn't give a proper response.

The right to self defense, hunting and target shooting are just accessories to the real purpose of the 2nd amendment.

KC

Ships....have GUNS!!

Some ships were hijacked that could have avoided it with just a few guns.

I've often been accused of carrying a concealed cannon!

Stop eating beans.

John Browning's father had an early repeater design like no other... he had a bar that slid through the action and it was drilled with a half-dozen or so holes matching the bore. Powder and bullets were seated in the bar and ignited by percussion caps (IIRC on the p caps) placed one at a time.

I believe that a free law abiding citizen of the USA has the right to own any weapon they want. They need to have any weapon that their enemies have.

When "they" ask that.... RE repeating/musket, ask em if they still walk or ride horses to work/school.

Life moves on. Keep up with it.

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This.


The Govt. has ARs....we have ARs

The 2nd Amendment wasn't just for single shots any more than the 1st amendment was just for speech per se. They didn't have the internet back then, but the 1st amendment still protects me when I say to the world I think the Govt. is mightily phouced up.

The gov't has M4's.

We should have M4's.

I stand corrected, you are right!


And mini-guns too!

Not me, I'm burying my Henry repeater in the back yard.

I think that when the 2nd was written, if some a-hole had killed a bunch of innocent people with a flintlock musket, a bayonet, a tomahawk, rock, fire, knife, hands, etc, etc, etc; they would have hung his sorry ass in short order and not spent months gabbing on the killer's "motivation" or listening to defense motions and appeals.

Some of the old methods were okay...

And I'm sure their response would be "exactly, we need to keep up with these new weapons by updating our outdated gun laws"

The first practical self contained cartridge was invented around 1845 in France. It was a rimfire CB cap , very low powered. By the civil war 25 years or so later the cartridges had progressed to a slightly larger caliber and other style ignition systems were being developed.Also by the Civil war there were numerous manual repeaters such as the Spencer and even the Henry and 1866 winchester, and the gatling gun was being developed. By the turn of the century there were working machine guns designed. So at the birth of our nation in 1776 it was about 70-80 years before cartridge development came to where practical repeaters were feasible, and within about 120 years machine guns as we know them were being developed.

So the first amendment should only apply to writing done by quill and ink, but not to writing done with a ball point pen because the pen was invented later?