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I was really surprised that Scotland voted in the majority to stay in the EU. And it seems that they are renewing the effort to vote again on their own independence from the United Kingdom.


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Britain should just be thankful Abe Lincoln isn't in charge of the EU.

Nato would be bombing them right now


NATO and the EU are totally separate entities. NATO has 22 members (including the US and Canada) while the EU has 28 (including the UK, but no US or Canada). They do cooperate, but are separate and it is doubtful whether the US or Canada would permit NATO to intervene.

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thanks for clarifying the "if Abe Lincoln was in charge analogy"


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I was really surprised that Scotland voted in the majority to stay in the EU. And it seems that they are renewing the effort to vote again on their own independence from the United Kingdom.


I expect Scotland to withdraw from the UK (it is already independent except for several issues) so it can completely withdraw and remain in the EU. Following a referendum in 1997, the Scotland Act 1998 was passed by the British Parliament to establish a Scottish Parliament and Scottish Government with responsibility for most laws specific to Scotland (most notably defense and international diplomatic issues remain with the UK).

Scotland and Northern Ireland have benefited from EU membership (as has the entire UK) and may vote to separate from the UK; this may portend the dissolution of the UK as we know it.

I expect that Scotland will completely secede from the UK and establish itself as an independent nation with EU and NATO membership.

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I was really surprised that Scotland voted in the majority to stay in the EU. And it seems that they are renewing the effort to vote again on their own independence from the United Kingdom.


I expect Scotland to withdraw from the UK (it is already independent except for several issues) so it can completely withdraw and remain in the EU. Following a referendum in 1997, the Scotland Act 1998[120] was passed by the British Parliament to establish a Scottish Parliament and Scottish Government with responsibility for most laws specific to Scotland (most notably defense and international diplomatic issues remain with the UK).

Scotland and Northern Ireland have benefited from EU membership (as has the entire UK) and may vote to separate from the UK; this may portend the dissolution of the UK as we know it.

I expect that Scotland will completely secede from the UK and establish itself as an independent nation with EU and NATO membership.


I think your analogy is spot on but would hate to see that happen.


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Those who voted for BREXIT tended to be older and less educated. Like in the US, these folks have been less prepared to the changes that have occurred with globalization (which is good for economic growth). One British commentator noted that the majority of those who voted for BREXIT) will live for an average of 16 years while those favoring remaining in the EU have an average life expectancy of 69 years remaining. Younger folks tend to take a longer-range view.

I believe that Britain will rue the day they took this vote. Already, several major manufacturers are discussing relocating to the continent (with the expected lay-offs in Britain) and several large corporations are making noises of relocating their corporate headquarters. Currently, Britain has the lowest unemployment rate (55) in the EU - this is expected to change over the next few years (upward).

We can only speculate the long term consequences of this vote, but it is not expected to be good.

I think you are using the term "less educated" in place of "less indoctrinated "
It is a common mistake among those overly educated.

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Those who voted for BREXIT tended to be older and less educated. Like in the US, these folks have been less prepared to the changes that have occurred with globalization (which is good for economic growth). One British commentator noted that the majority of those who voted for BREXIT) will live for an average of 16 years while those favoring remaining in the EU have an average life expectancy of 69 years remaining. Younger folks tend to take a longer-range view.

I believe that Britain will rue the day they took this vote. Already, several major manufacturers are discussing relocating to the continent (with the expected lay-offs in Britain) and several large corporations are making noises of relocating their corporate headquarters. Currently, Britain has the lowest unemployment rate (55) in the EU - this is expected to change over the next few years (upward).

We can only speculate the long term consequences of this vote, but it is not expected to be good.


Younger folks tend to take a longer-range view? LMAO. The younger generation is lucky to look past the end of their nose!

The youth in Brittain, even more so than here, don't have a clue. All they know is what was taught them in schools and colleges and on the globalist government controlled media.

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Wasn't the youth vote a big part of the Brexit? I think it was according to what was on the news.


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They were quite heavily against it, as the government came out and told them their "free schidt" would be in jeopardy. The UK is much like the U.S. in that the youth are happy to see the country flooded with immigrants that do the jobs that are considered beneath them...as they sit on the dole with a degree.

They did the same thing with Scottish independence, even going so far as opening the vote to 16 year olds!

Generations of indoctrination in government controlled schools and by professors and reporters with similar indoctrination/agendas...and folks wonder at the "changes"!

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Originally Posted by kciH
They were quite heavily against it, as the government came out and told them their "free schidt" would be in jeopardy. The UK is much like the U.S. in that the youth are happy to see the country flooded with immigrants that do the jobs that are considered beneath them...as they sit on the dole with a degree.

They did the same thing with Scottish independence, even going so far as opening the vote to 16 year olds!

Generations of indoctrination in government controlled schools and by professors and reporters with similar indoctrination/agendas...and folks wonder at the "changes"!


Remind you of the Bernie Sanders crowd?


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if it is all backlash over immigration policies, leaving is all well and good.

What will they all do about their immigrants?



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The enlightened youth gave us the POS in the White House.


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Those who voted for BREXIT tended to be older and less educated. Like in the US, these folks have been less prepared to the changes that have occurred with globalization (which is good for economic growth). One British commentator noted that the majority of those who voted for BREXIT) will live for an average of 16 years while those favoring remaining in the EU have an average life expectancy of 69 years remaining. Younger folks tend to take a longer-range view.

I believe that Britain will rue the day they took this vote. Already, several major manufacturers are discussing relocating to the continent (with the expected lay-offs in Britain) and several large corporations are making noises of relocating their corporate headquarters. Currently, Britain has the lowest unemployment rate (55) in the EU - this is expected to change over the next few years (upward).

We can only speculate the long term consequences of this vote, but it is not expected to be good.


Younger folks tend to take a longer-range view? LMAO. The younger generation is lucky to look past the end of their nose!

The youth in Brittain, even more so than here, don't have a clue. All they know is what was taught them in schools and colleges and on the globalist government controlled media.


"Younger folks tend to take a longer-range view? LMAO. The younger generation is lucky to look past the end of their nose!"

By younger, I was referring to those in their early-mid 30's, not 20 year olds. These folks have 30+ years to work and then a retirement that my extend for another 30 years. A 60 year old with lesser education is approaching retirement and their work life is nearing its' end. The younger generation has (generally) greater education and a more professional or white-collar employment. Just as in the US, blue-collar employment has dropped as jobs have gone overseas, while professional/white-collar employment has grown. This younger generation is concerned that their future will be diminished.

Keep in mind that US manufacturing is at its' all time high, but with productivity gains and automation, many manufacturing jobs have disappeared - never to return.

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[quote=hatari]Brexit is a vote against one World government. The EU is governed from Brussels not by elected officials, but by appointed functionaries. Those functionaries are not accountable to the people. Brits finally got fed up with authorities from across the Channel running AND ruining their country.

I could be wrong, but I believe you are right. In my mind I can connect the dots to see what you are seeing, as part of it they are trying to destabilize by using immagration, what I can't connect is how they transfer all power to a central Government. It seems there would be a all inclusive world war as to which country would house the Govermental seat. I just hope I'm wrong and even stupid for thinking they are attempting to do this.

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Are you talking about George HW Bush and his New World Order?
And his implementing NAFTA? A border-less society.

For modern times that is where is started.

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Are you talking about George HW Bush and his New World Order?
And his implementing NAFTA? A border-less society.

For modern times that is where is started.

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Originally Posted by djs
Those who voted for BREXIT tended to be older and less educated. Like in the US, these folks have been less prepared to the changes that have occurred with globalization (which is good for economic growth). One British commentator noted that the majority of those who voted for BREXIT) will live for an average of 16 years while those favoring remaining in the EU have an average life expectancy of 69 years remaining. Younger folks tend to take a longer-range view.

I believe that Britain will rue the day they took this vote. Already, several major manufacturers are discussing relocating to the continent (with the expected lay-offs in Britain) and several large corporations are making noises of relocating their corporate headquarters. Currently, Britain has the lowest unemployment rate (55) in the EU - this is expected to change over the next few years (upward).

We can only speculate the long term consequences of this vote, but it is not expected to be good.


I'm not sure what your sources are, but that runs counter to just about every astute analysis that I've read. As in 180 degrees opposite of what most economists think will really happen. Within a couple of months when everyone realizes that the sky won't fall, the UK economy will be buzzing. It will be an ideal spot for "european" corporate headquarters going forward as well, since it will no longer be bound by EU regulations.

The main "unintended" consequence will be that numerous other better-developed countries will run for the exits now also, in order to get on the gravy train that the UK will have rolling within a year.

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Originally Posted by hatari
...The EU is governed from Brussels not by elected officials, but by appointed functionaries. Those functionaries are not accountable to the people. Brits finally got fed up with authorities from across the Channel running AND ruining their country...


That's exactly what our own government feels like, a bunch of foreigners, with nothing much to lose, monitoring our every move, telling us what's good for us and just what we are allowed to do. While taxing us to death.


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You can argue all you want that a European Union was a good idea. Maybe it was. However, the EU was poorly thought out. If they wanted a union that would have worked better, they would have formed a republic. As it was, the EU was just a half-azzed attempt.


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BREXIT.

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