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I'm guessing he was a Mauser man . . . 6.5x55 (round nose) and 7x57 (pointed nose.)



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Given that The photo was taken in the teens and the Mexicans used lots of 7x57 I'm going to say they are all 7x57. The round nose bullets are probably the original 172.8 grain Spanish load. And the pointed bullets would be the 139 grain spitzer adopted by the Spanish in 1913. At that place and time, both loads would have been common.

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I'd bet it's a 7x57 even though Ingwe was using it first.


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Originally Posted by colodog
I'd bet it's a 7x57 even though Ingwe was using it first.


Didn't Paul Mauser get his design details from Ingwe?

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Poncho's known to have carried a 1910 Mauser carbine, and a 94 Winchester in 30-30.

I'm not saying that's what's in the picture, just he's know to have carried them.


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From everything I've seen, he usually had either a 1910 Mauser or a 30-30 with him.

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As unlikely as it seems, I believe Old Pancho is carrying two different calibers. The bandolier over his right shoulder (left side of the photo) appears to be holding 7x57's, and the one over his left shoulder (right side of photo) appears to be holding .30/06 cartridges.

I saved the photo and zoomed in. The cartridges are definitely different in length appropriate to the two rounds. The '06's have spitzer bullets while the 7mm's have round nose bullets.

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Kinda defeats the rapid reload advantage of stripper clips doesn't it?

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7x57

Ingwe told me so.

He took the picture.

He was trying to make the 7x57 more cool with the Spanish rebel angle.

Ingwe always liked Spanish men in leather.


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It's not the cartridges "on" him while living that interest me, as much as the bullets "In" him at the time of his passing.


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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
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I'd bet it's a 7x57 even though Ingwe was using it first.


Didn't Paul Mauser get his design details from Ingwe?

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I can't remember who recommended this book, but I got it on July 5th from Amazon, and just finished it last week. Now I'm hooked on reading some more books on Tom Mix. So far this is the only book that covers the four years that Mix road with Villa. Well worth the read IMHBAO!


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Got to be 7x57

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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
I can't remember who recommended this book, but I got it on July 5th from Amazon, and just finished it last week. Now I'm hooked on reading some more books on Tom Mix. So far this is the only book that covers the four years that Mix road with Villa. Well worth the read IMHBAO!


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There is no proof whatsoever that Tom Mix "road" with Pancho Villa. Mix claimed he met Villa when he traveled in Mexico. The book is based on unsubstantiated hearsay, better known as "Hollywood hype." wink

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Tom Mix was, however, a helluva movie star for his time, though.

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Originally Posted by hanco
Got to be 7x57


No, it DON'T.

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