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My stepmom's nephew's son (now deceased) was a recovery diver in the DC/Norfolk/Chesapeake bay area.

Over the years he acquired some incidentals that he stored. The nephew brought them over to my Dad's for show and tell, and I saw a bunch of silverware, boating items, fishing items, etc.

All very neat stuff (I didn't have my camera so I couldn't get pix)- although its sad how much stuff is apparently tossed overboard into our waters.

Nevertheless, I did leave with a bag of booty, of which I offer the following:

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Some Springfield rounds, all military. Of those I could see, earliest stamp 41.
A 30 carbine, stamped 43.
A 45 stamped 54

who knows what the last on the right is? (I do)

What begs the question, if all the ammo he found appears to be military, these must have a good story:

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Is the one on the right a 7.7 Jap?
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Originally Posted by kwg020
Is the one on the right a 7.7 Jap?
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negative.

You're a millimeter off +/-, as well as a couple thousand miles.

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and then there's this:

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Is the one on the right a Carcano?

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yep.

figure it was a left over from the Kennedy job.

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6mm Lee-Navy?


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Probably some interesting stories in this.

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I have spent some time crawling in the muck in the bay. You can ump into some interesting stuff. I really mean bump into. No visibility so you are working blind and walk not a old car or sunken boat or...


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When I was a wee little pup I would visit grandpa down along the Potomac on the Northern Neck and sometimes you would hear the big guns booming over at Dalhgren. I imagine there is some stuff down in the river bottom.

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Originally Posted by 4ager
6mm Lee-Navy?


Of the two pictured together, the one on the right is a Krag, but I based that on bullet diameter and comparing the case to a 30-30.

The big one on the left is a 50-70.

Got to wonder how they got into the bay in that form.

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6mm Lee-Navy?


Of the two pictured together, the one on the right is a Krag, but I based that on bullet diameter and comparing the case to a 30-30.

The big one on the left is a 50-70.

Got to wonder how they got into the bay in that form.


Quick disposal by the military, shipping accidents, ship unloading accidents

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Originally Posted by RWE
and then there's this:

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20mm TP

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Originally Posted by Chris_EOD
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6mm Lee-Navy?


Of the two pictured together, the one on the right is a Krag, but I based that on bullet diameter and comparing the case to a 30-30.

The big one on the left is a 50-70.

Got to wonder how they got into the bay in that form.


Quick disposal by the military, shipping accidents, ship unloading accidents


Probably, but I'm pretty sure the Carcano was a leftover from Dallas...

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The Bay has been a dumping ground on purpose and not for a few hundred years.

When I was going through Naval Aviation Safety school one of the exercises we did was to examine a mishap involving a T-2 Buckeye out of NAS Pax River and they had the wreckage over at the airport in Monterey to look at. As we looked through the wreckage they had drug up from the bay some things started to look odd. Most of us had flown the T-2 in flight school and yet some of the parts were clearly from an A-4 including the AN/AJB-3 Attitude Indicator.

Turns out the T-2 had gone down in the bay on top of a previous A-4 crash. crazy


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I knew an old welder who happened to have trained recovery divers in Solomons, Md,during WWII. Had some interesting stories of dragging a grappling hook at 125' in darkness, looking for live ordinance. Balls of brass. Not sure if he is still alive. Last saw him 2 years ago. Harold Little. Good guy.

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Originally Posted by Chris_EOD
Originally Posted by RWE
and then there's this:

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20mm TP


.50 caliber spotter?

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Chris got it.

20mm Trainer.

I could use it in place of a sap...


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