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TIME TO STUDY HARDER AND FIGHT FOR IT


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
And replace it with "what"?

Culture and technology may change, but human nature remains unchanged and the acquisition of power (and use of same)by corrupt individuals and governments will continue unabated.

But the document and the foresight of the founders is all that prevents it, and stands above the fray.

To suggest that we should trust any portion of todays crop of fools with the ability to tamper with it, is ridiculous.

The judge is an idiot.


This.

The Constitution is backed by thousands of years of experience with human nature before it, the fallibility of men and a basic understanding of idiots just like this "judge".

Truly a worthless person.

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The document is as much about reigning in the indiscretions of human behavior as it is about placing limitations on the power of the government.

Other than space and time, there is no substantive difference between the despots of the 17th and 18th centuries, and the tyranny of todays socialist/communist systems; nor Communist China. They are all the same.

The founders knew it and that's part of the genius of the document.

It s timeless and the mere mortals who poke at it are at best temporary and of no significance.




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Basically he's stating he's got no time for the law.

Good to know; I hope he's prepared himself for when people like him has created the point that the rest of us dont have time for it, either. Being so modern of a thought and all.....

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
The fact is it is an irrelevant document that has absolutely failed to limit the power of size of government and it is scarcely followed by anyone.


...so because no one follows the speed limit we should ignore the signs.



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[quote=BobinNH
The document is open to interpretation by the Courts. That's why they are there.

Just because things don't always go as you like, you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. [/quote]

Fine, as long as interpretation is based on the ratification conventions discussions, federalist papers and other documents of the time relevant to the Constitution. Not OK if it is some judges PC legislation from the bench.

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The document was deliberately ambiguous on many things so future generations would have to think through how it applied to situations that couldn't be foreseen at the time of it's writing.

If it were more specific, it truly would be dated.
As it is, it's alive!


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Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by JoeBob
The fact is it is an irrelevant document that has absolutely failed to limit the power of size of government and it is scarcely followed by anyone.


...so because no one follows the speed limit we should ignore the signs.


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I've read enough of JoeBobs posts to know that he DOES believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights -he's just bummed out that we've let things go the direction they have for so long.

I'd love to see 100% adherence to the Constitution & Bill of Rights anyone trying to go around it or dispute it gets a first class public hanging after being beaten multiple times .


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Originally Posted by Stevil
Well BobinH theres a crop of Fools who think a Tax dodging, Mysoginist Bigot shoud lead this country ....

The Documents been so comprimised now that its relevance sure can be question.

The Judge makes alot of sense


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The Constitution is the Law of the land and will always be what makes this country great and what separates us from all the other countries that oppresses their people .


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Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by JoeBob
The fact is it is an irrelevant document that has absolutely failed to limit the power of size of government and it is scarcely followed by anyone.


...so because no one follows the speed limit we should ignore the signs.



You miss the point. If no one follows the speed limit the signs ARE ALREADY being ignored.

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Reading this thread it's sad and f'ed up that there is more knowledge and wisdom here than in all three branches of government. Most people today have no idea and couldn't care less about what made this country great or the ideas that it was based on.

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Originally Posted by 4ager
Posner is essentially the touchstone on tort law in the US.

However, his views on the Constitution are ludicrous, and completely unsuitable for any sitting judge at any level. He should be removed, or have the honor and integrity to step down.


Impeached for treason perhaps.
We all took the oath to that document when we served. They got to swear to it too as judges.


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This judge doesn't realize its the Constitution that provides for his job; and the freedom of speech to speak against It. crazy


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
And replace it with "what"?

Culture and technology may change, but human nature remains unchanged and the acquisition of power (and use of same)by corrupt individuals and governments will continue unabated.

But the document and the foresight of the founders is all that prevents it, and stands above the fray.

To suggest that we should trust any portion of todays crop of fools with the ability to tamper with it, is ridiculous.

The judge is an idiot.


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Best discussion of this issue is HERE
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Federal judge goes all in against rule of law, tosses stare decisis
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A couple days ago, I discussed how Judge Richard Posner of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit has advocated that no judge should spend even a few seconds "studying the Constitution, the history of its enactment, its amendments, and its implementation."

Such a public statement appears to be in contravention of 28 U.S. Code §453, the oath of judges, which requires all judges to "faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent ... under the Constitution and laws of the United States."


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This judges is a liar and a fraud, that is what he is saying. He took an oath to carry out his duties according to the constitution and now he is saying opening ly that he lied during his oath and committed fraud inorder to be a judge.

He should imediatley be removed from office and prosecuted!



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Originally Posted by JoeBob
He is right. The document became more or less irrelevant decades ago. We don't follow it. So why bother studying it?


No he's wrong and is representative of what is wrong in this country as are those that think like him. Include yourself if you are so inclined. We need the constitution now as much or more than we ever did. Now is not the time to diminish it nor has there ever been such a time.
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This judges is a liar and a fraud, that is what he is saying. He took an oath to carry out his duties according to the constitution and now he is saying opening ly that he lied during his oath and committed fraud inorder to be a judge.

He should imediatley be removed from office and prosecuted!
That too.

Originally Posted by BobinNH


The judge is an idiot.
And ESPECIALLY that!!



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Originally Posted by bea175
According to 7th Circuit Judge Richard Posner, writing on Slate.com, it’s time for the Supreme Court – and, indeed, law students everywhere – to stop giving so much deference to that old, musty document known as the U.S. Constitution.

“I see absolutely no value to a judge of spending decades, years, months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, or seconds studying the Constitution, the history of its enactment, its amendments, and its implementation,” Posner wrote. “Eighteenth-century guys, however smart, could not foresee the culture, technology, etc. of the 21st century. Which means that the original Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the post-Civil War amendments (including the 14th), do not speak to today.”

Posner concluded: “In short, let’s not let the dead bury the living.”

Posner, an appointee of Ronald Reagan, is surely entering the initial stages of some form of regrettable dementia.

If anything, our current Supreme Court justices have strayed too far from their constitutional grounding. Increasingly, they put on those black robes and suddenly consider themselves the wisest men and women in the land, imbued with the kind of grand ideas and exceptional genius that renders the Constitution (and even legal precedent) matters of triviality. If these things can be used to support their learned opinion, great. If not, well, that’s fine too. No such banalities can be used to question a mighty Justice! Begone, peasant.

Posner is right, of course, that there are aspects of 21st century American life that are too far removed from the Revolution-era to make constitutional application an easy job. But then, that’s why we have the Supreme Court. If you could find every answer in the written text of that hallowed document, we would hardly need all of this “interpretation.”

But without a close study of the Constitution, its framers, and its intent, we are a ship lost at sea, simply making the rules up as we go along. At some point, Posner (and many other liberals) apparently forgot that the Constitution was – and is – one of the greatest legal foundations for government in the history of the world. Upon those brilliant insights, we built a country that permanently changed this thing we call life.

The grand importance of the Constitution, though, is not in its specificity or its one-to-one relevance in 2016. It’s the theme that is written between every calligraphic line: Whenever possible, the power of the federal government over the citizenry should be severely limited. This should be the guiding light of every Supreme Court Justice, every senator, every congressman, and every president.

“I think the Supreme Court is at a nadir,” wrote Posner at another point in his essay. “The justices are far too uniform in background, and I don’t think there are any real stars among them.”

Well, then, Judge Posner, this would be a pretty bad time for them to start ignoring the Constitution, wouldn’t it?


He has effectively barred himself from any and all taxpayer funded positions...in particular any overseeing any judgement upon anything pertaining to or of the Constitution.


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