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The .264" 143gr out of a 6.5 SAUM killed two oryx in New Mexico recently with stellar performance
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rcamuglia,
What was the impact velocities?
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No thanks in the ABLR, they're no bueno. I think the heaviest scirocco is 150 in 284 isn't it? What's not to love about the 175 ABLR? Do they not shoot in your 28 Casey? I killed my elk and moose last year with my 28 Nosler using the Nosler factory 175 loads as I didn't have time for load development and they shot .5 moa anyway. Two one shot kills - 200 yards on the elk and 568 yards on the moose. Perfect bullet performance, just like the 190 ABLR's I used the year before on my moose out of a .300WM. I love them.
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When my rifle was a 7 lrm, I had crushed bullets during seating, sparatic accuracy, and a lot of 2 in 1 out groups. I originally thought it easy bedding, but after having the amity double check the bedding, and research it a operated the 2 in 1 out was pretty normal for amino peers over 3000.
805, in my opnion, after running the numbers of the 195 @ 3000 and the 180 Hybrid and 175 eld at 3150-3200, there wasn't enough gained until I believe 1200 yards or so to warrant using that bullet
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I understand the numbers with the 195vs 180 hybrids. IMO I'd load both and see which shoot better. Both bullets will get it done on elk!
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Ha. Me having an Elk tag more then once a decade! That's funny!
My rifle is also 1:9 reisted, so I'm nit sure I could even stabilize those 195s
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When my rifle was a 7 lrm, I had crushed bullets during seating, sparatic accuracy, and a lot of 2 in 1 out groups. I originally thought it easy bedding, but after having the amity double check the bedding, and research it a operated the 2 in 1 out was pretty normal for amino peers over 3000.
805, in my opnion, after running the numbers of the 195 @ 3000 and the 180 Hybrid and 175 eld at 3150-3200, there wasn't enough gained until I believe 1200 yards or so to warrant using that bullet IME, you'd come within 100fps of your 180 load with the 195. I'm betting you'd stabilize them in your 9 twist...
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I'm betting it will stabilize the 195s. What I meant was load both and test for groups and drop. Whichever shoots better from your rifle I'd go with. Either bullet will be a hammer. My buddy is using the 180 hybrids over retumbo with excellent range results so far. RL33 is also a great powder in 28nosler.
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Ok so what LR bullet is good for impact velocities above 3000 ft/sec. None. Not if you want picture perfect mushrooms at 3k plus FPS, and good expansion at 1,600-1,800 FPS. They are called "Long Range" bullets for a reason. The whole purpose of bullets such as the ELD-X and ABLR is to offer great expansion/fragmentation at low impact velocities, while having just enough "control" to make it into the chest cavity at 3K plus FPS. Bullets such as those and Bergers and even AMAX's kill just fine up close but they won't look pretty when pulled out of the animal. Big deal.
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Agree, though even in my small sample of 162 Amax deer kills I had one come completely apart and not reach the far lung on a broadside shot at 200 yards. MV was ~ 2950 fps. So....... I'm all for giving the ELD-X a whirl.
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Elkhunter 49 how did the Eld-X do on the Axis?
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