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I definitely think there were better "woodsmen/hunters" back in the old days. Something of a lost art as many have retreated back to the trees to kill deer in an evolutionary reversal.
Some younger folks may not even know what they are...but some of the older lumberjacks from Maine would qualify today. Those guys knew the woods and how to hunt.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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While reading the posts on what did we do before we had???
#! Freezing ass off with bulky layers of cotton cause we could not afford wool which was heavy and made you sweat.
#2 Spent 3 days trying to water proof leather boots using ,mink oil,seal blubber,bear fat,paraffin wax,first creek you walk through your feet are soaking wet.
#3 Buying leather boots two sizes too big so you could wear extra socks and still get frost bit toes.
#4 Every other scope on the market would fog inside as soon as you saw a buck.
#5 Wearing a rubber rain suit when it rained.
#6 Wearing choppers to keep your hands warm and trying to get them off when you see a deer.
#7 being the youngest in deer camp you got to do all the drives.
#8 Wipeing your ass with a newspaper cause the Old Man did not want to waste Toilet paper.
#9 having no idea how far a deer was on you first trip "Out West"
#10 hand warmers that used lighter fluid as fuel,stunk like hell and went out after 5 minutes.
Yeah, I yearn for those days.Now I wear light weight waterproof clothes and boots that are comfortable,and warm.My undies wick my sweat away.I know how far deer are.My scope does not fog and I wipe my ass with toilet paper.Just sayin ,Huntz I'd take those days back in a second.
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I would willingly go back to those days if I could have a couple modern amenities (such as better footgear than the cotton socks/rubber boots I froze inside of back in the 60's).
I miss the people and attitudes. I miss the smell and noise of my uncle's old Willys CJ. I miss the excitement of being a teenage kid lying awake the night before opening day.
I don't miss the fact that the Eastern deer herd was maybe 1/5th the size it is today.
But most of all, I would willingly go back 45-50 years if but just for one day- if I could spend that day hunting with my old man one more time.
"You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz
"Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty
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Yep, cotton socks, leather boots, bee's wax, war surplus gear, rusty iron cookware, canvas tents and cots that reeked of mildew, the old scout hut where weekly meetings were basically boxing and wrestling matches.
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As Far As I'm Concerned (AFAIC), I so much prefer hunting and equipment TODAY over tgod (the good ole days). As others have already mentioned,
Clothing
Optics
BULLETS
Powder
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et.al. are better now than in the70-80s.
We also have many Xs the no. of deer & other game animals than there were.
Our deer season is MUCH longer than it was.
Our bag limit is TRIPLE what it was.
You get my drift ??
OTOH I do miss getting to hunt/fish with my Dad and a few friends that are no longer with us. We must admitt that family & friends pass regardless of all other circumstances.
Jerry
jwall- *** 3100 guy***
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Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!
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The things I miss the most about the good old days are. Unposted property all over the place that could be hunted freely. Nine dollar muskrat pelts at a time when a new Marlin 60 could be had for 49.00 and a brick of .22LR's was 5.99 on sale. Fifty dollar jumbo coon and 25.00 mediums when a good night with the hounds could equal a weeks pay at the plant. Woodchucks in every hay field. Saturday afternoons spent driving around the back roads shooting woodchucks out the window of your pickup and nobody cared because everybody wasn't an uptight azzhole and you knew all the farmers personally anyway and had their blessings. Better hunting today ? Not by a longshot !
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Parts of it were excellent.
What I miss most, aside from my eyes, legs, and lungs, is the great upland hunting we used to enjoy in Adams County, PA. Wild ringnecks, rabbits, squirrels, woodcock, even the occasional quail were on the menu. Best of all, we could step off my grandmother's porch and be in productive cover in 30 seconds.
Whitetail hunting is clearly better today, IF you have a place to hunt, or can go deep on public land, or have deep pockets.
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Yeah, I miss pheasants too. And snowshoe rabbits. Ain't hardly any of those around here anymore either. It ain't all about deer for me.
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We still burn wood to heat the house-I am a hvac guy,use ponies for the backcountry and occasionally to town,wouldn't be seen in camo ,wool is just fine.Hunting wasn't a pastime,it was a way of life.Other than moose there is more game these days but much of the wildness of the mountains is tamed now and this was a vital part of things.If you didn't see this,well to bad for you.I did.
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Oh yeah, and I miss the Sears Roebuck and Montgomery Ward fall catalogs coming in the mail every year too. Couldn't wait to look through the gun/sporting goods section. Still have two old Sears shotguns and a bolt action .22 kicking around here.
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We still burn wood to heat the house-I am a hvac guy,use ponies for the backcountry and occasionally to town,wouldn't be seen in camo ,wool is just fine.Hunting wasn't a pastime,it was a way of life.Other than moose there is more game these days but much of the wildness of the mountains is tamed now and this was a vital part of things.If you didn't see this,well to bad for you.I did. Get with it Dude. All the happening people use lamas for packing into the back country! ![[Linked Image]](http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh209/sangyedrolma/Lamas/shamarpa-teaching4.jpg)
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I was just reading a 1961 Outdoor Life and I wish I could buy some of the boots advertised in there, even for inflated dollars. Same thing with a lot of the advertised clothing. Instead, I can buy stuff sized to fit the average Chinaman.
We also heat with wood (exclusively) but now cook with propane.
Those Sears and Monkey Wards catalogs were a treasure. You could buy a lathe or an engine rebuild kit from either store. Today, a Sears catalog offers a good variety of brassieres. GD
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Out here a dude is a city guy and if something is happening you happen to be doing it .My point is the western mountains before all the logging,exploration and other development was truly exceptional and for those that experienced it are very blessed.Cheers
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Out here a dude is a city guy and if something is happening you happen to be doing it .My point is the western mountains before all the logging,exploration and other development was truly exceptional and for those that experienced it are very blessed.Cheers Just messin' with you. It's hard for an old man to pass up an opportunity to be "funny". You're right about all that great stuff that's long gone. Makes you wonder what kind of fond memories our offspring are going to have.
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Better hunting today ? Not by a longshot ! I guess it depends upon WHERE you lived... Jerry
jwall- *** 3100 guy***
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I dunno. Last year, I went deer hunting with a .30/30 and 4X scope, and had a pocketknife in my pocket, and a bit of rope in my vest pocket. No other fancy new-age gew-gaws, I even used factory ammo in the little Marlin.
No backpacks, butt-out tools, none of that stuff. Got away with it, this time.
It was more fun than the fancy scoped .270s I've been using, but I still had the same stuff in my pockets, then, too. I just don't need that stuff hunting farmland, and being within a mile or so of the house most of the time.
I can go just over the hill and down on the creek and find a deer, if I wait long enough.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
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At least you had paper, we only had leaves   Ingwe...is that you? Ingwe started out with flint. Eventually used live pole cats, which explains why they smell to this day... That's kinda harsh, after all, they use pole cat juice for a base for perfume, don't they?
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
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At least you had paper, we only had leaves Ingwe...is that you? Ingwe started out with flint. Eventually used live pole cats, which explains why they smell to this day... That's kinda harsh, after all, they use pole cat juice for a base for perfume, don't they? You are correct, it is the main ingredient in the muck that the blue rinse lot wear...also used in toilet deodorant/stink hider.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Being able to hunt the majority of places around home and out-of-state by simply asking permission. OTC tags or easier draws. Yeah, it sucked it back in the day.  ![[Linked Image]](http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp83/skane_image/Binos/BINO_zpsxqxvklib.png) Yup. Steve.
"I was a deerhunter long before I was a man." ~Gene Wensel's Come November (2000)
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BTW, if you are still wiping your a$$ with toilet paper, let me introduce you to diaper wipes....
Yeah, and the way they don't break down in the environment, turning up around campsites where critters have dug them up (or where people didn't even bother to bury them). And in towns blocking sewers and treatment plants, and turning up in streams and on beaches. I'm happy not to use them. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6597640-3x2-700x467.jpg)
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