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Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Pharmseller #11348145 08/02/16
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northern_dave Campfire 'Bwana N Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 35,293 Minnesota	I love stunt shooting. Excellent information in this thread! Something clever here.

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Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? gunner500 #11348155 08/02/16
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gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,243 Oklahoma	Originally Posted by gunner500 I have a very nice load developed for Wifeys AR-15 for around the house with the 64 gr Nosler bonded and CFE-223 Tex, it's a blunt shaped little bastid that I bet would impart a lot of pain. I can fire it into 1.5"/2" at 100 yards with an EoTech 556 with no wind. I lied, went back and looked at the targets early this morning while the coffee pot was working her morning majic, groups are averaging about 2.5"s at 100, but, still plenty good enough for yard/house work. Trump Won!

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? gunner500 #11348181 08/02/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by gunner500 Originally Posted by gunner500 I have a very nice load developed for Wifeys AR-15 for around the house with the 64 gr Nosler bonded and CFE-223 Tex, it's a blunt shaped little bastid that I bet would impart a lot of pain. I can fire it into 1.5"/2" at 100 yards with an EoTech 556 with no wind. I lied, went back and looked at the targets early this morning while the coffee pot was working her morning majic, groups are averaging about 2.5"s at 100, but, still plenty good enough for yard/house work. Should be able to hit a man sized target in the same room! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? ingwe #11348196 08/02/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,243 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,243 Oklahoma	LOL, unlike shooting at a 12" gong at 200 yards in a Texas crosswind with a barrel sighted Sharps rifle. Trump Won!

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? tex_n_cal #11350297 08/03/16
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doover72 Campfire Member D Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 253	That looks almost exactly like the Sierra 65 grain I shot a buck with last fall. He ran about 50 yards, but he was at a full trot and I got him just a little farther back than I intended. Stupid antler restrictions in southeast Texas. I had to make snap judgement on his spread. Originally Posted by tex_n_cal well, speaking of catching .22 slugs That's the Sierra 65gr boattail that killed the spike buck I previously pictured. It was launched out of the DD rifle shown with a 1 in 7" twist, which probably helped expansion. The buck was broadside, and the bullet broke the onside humerus, went through the vitals, and stopped in the offside hide, the core & jacket separated but together. IIRC it weighed about 50% of its original weight. My hunch is it would bust a shoulder & still kill - at least on small whitetails. Probably use something a little tougher in the future. So far it has shot the best in that Daniel Mk12. Last edited by doover72; 08/03/16.

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Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Pharmseller #11350311 08/03/16
Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 253 D doover72 Campfire Member
doover72 Campfire Member D Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 253	Hell, I'm thinking about selling my Winchester 70 308. I've come to the realization that I'll probably never hunt anything other than deer and hogs, and my 223's and 44 mag will be more than enough to take care of that.

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? doover72 #11350332 08/03/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,243 Oklahoma G gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana
gunner500 Campfire 'Bwana G Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 46,243 Oklahoma	Originally Posted by doover72 Hell, I'm thinking about selling my Winchester 70 308. I've come to the realization that I'll probably never hunt anything other than deer and hogs, and my 223's and 44 mag will be more than enough to take care of that. Put an 8 twist Bartlein 243 barrel on that 308 and have it throated for a long skinny 243 bullet with a set of spinning turrets. Trump Won!

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? gunner500 #11350562 08/03/16
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doover72 Campfire Member D Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 253	Originally Posted by gunner500 Originally Posted by doover72 Hell, I'm thinking about selling my Winchester 70 308. I've come to the realization that I'll probably never hunt anything other than deer and hogs, and my 223's and 44 mag will be more than enough to take care of that. Put an 8 twist Bartlein 243 barrel on that 308 and have it throated for a long skinny 243 bullet with a set of spinning turrets. Hmmmm

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Pharmseller #11350686 08/04/16
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gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,068 Annapolis, Md.	Any advantage to 55gr. TSX's over 50's in the deer woods? I'm inclined to go with the 50's as they are turning out to be the t*ts in my AR. (Thanks, Ingwe.) "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? gnoahhh #11351778 08/04/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	No...not really. Ive shot a literal ton of game with the 50s and have yet to recover one. Same with the55s...everything died the same...so rock on! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Pharmseller #11352140 08/04/16
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Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA	I'm gonna have to try those. Are they good to go for punching through shoulder bones, if a guy wanted to do that? Sounds like it from your description, just confirming whether they shear all the petals off on bone contact or keep a good wound channel all the way through.

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Yondering #11352227 08/04/16
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10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,882 Missouri	Originally Posted by Yondering I'm gonna have to try those. Are they good to go for punching through shoulder bones, if a guy wanted to do that? Sounds like it from your description, just confirming whether they shear all the petals off on bone contact or keep a good wound channel all the way through. Should go through both shoulders easily. My largest bodied buck, 250# or so on hoof took a single 60 grain partition through the blades of both shoulders. As far as I know that bullet is still traveling. Fired from my 22-250 at about 20 yards. The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Pharmseller #11352704 08/05/16
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Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA	Thanks. I was asking about the 50 & 55gr TSX ingwe was referring to, but that's good feedback on the 60gr Partition anyway. Last edited by Yondering; 08/05/16.

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Yondering #11352926 08/05/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by Yondering I'm gonna have to try those. Are they good to go for punching through shoulder bones, if a guy wanted to do that? Sounds like it from your description, just confirming whether they shear all the petals off on bone contact or keep a good wound channel all the way through. The only one I ever recovered was a 53 gr TSX that went through both shoulders of this big dude... No petals sheared off... Not saying the TTSXs wouldn't shear a petal..Im sure they will under some circumstances...but Ive never recovered a TTSX ( In 23 kills IIRC...) and Ive never found a petal when cutting the meat up.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Pharmseller #11352934 08/05/16
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Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA	Nice, thanks. I was using the 62gr version with the assumption that a little more weight would be needed, but with the accuracy issues I'm having with it, I'll try the 50 or 55 next, looks like they get the job done just fine.

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Yondering #11352939 08/05/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	They do..... even the 45 grainer works.... .222 at 247 Lazered yards. Re-post Last edited by ingwe; 08/05/16. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Pharmseller #11352963 08/05/16
Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Y Yondering Campfire Tracker
Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA	Wait a minute, I heard .222 doesn't have enough power to kill deer. Must be a photoshop.

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Pharmseller #11352981 08/05/16
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battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,807 outside the burgh	.223AI 55gr on a Buck at around 150. Entered the neck and traveled down the spine a bit. Petals still intact. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Yondering #11353028 08/05/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by Yondering Wait a minute, I heard .222 doesn't have enough power to kill deer. Must be a photoshop. It is... We photoshopped the deer to make it look bigger, and the cartridge to make it loo smaller. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: 60 grain Partition or 50 grain TTSX in .223 for deer? Yondering #11353270 08/05/16
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10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,882 Missouri	Originally Posted by Yondering Thanks. I was asking about the 50 & 55gr TSX ingwe was referring to, but that's good feedback on the 60gr Partition anyway. I know, just relaying the Partition experience because if the Nosler will do it then the Barnes will do the same plus some. Wouldn't mind try either the 45 TSX or 50 TTSX in my 22-250. Either one at 3800+ should be like lightening on whitetails. Just hard to get away from the .224 Partitions with which I have had excellent luck on about 15 deer. Deadly little bastid. The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!

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