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Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 #11307132 07/13/16 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,000 Mid TN Travis13 OP Campfire Regular OP Travis13 Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,000 Mid TN I've always been a M70 guy and I've been offered a M700 CDL DM stainless in good ole 270. I know nothing about these rifles. Supposedly it was bought brand new 2 years ago and fired 50 times. Guy wants $700. Seems ok, but like I say, I know little about them. What should I expect accuracy and build-wise? I know the sky is the limit when it comes to building them and with my OCD, that is probably a bad thing lol. But it may be that damn Pokemon everyone is looking for.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11307325 07/13/16 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s... J JSTUART Campfire Ranger JSTUART Campfire Ranger J Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s... Your choice. I personally would rather brush my teeth with a chainsaw. These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11307334 07/13/16 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,000 Mid TN Travis13 OP Campfire Regular OP Travis13 Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,000 Mid TN Turns out it's not stainless, it's cerakoted

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11307347 07/13/16 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,332 The Buckeye State M micky Campfire Regular micky Campfire Regular M Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,332 The Buckeye State I have owned a couple and they work great. I don't get excited about them either. I prefer the Sako or the Weatherby. That said they do cost more, but the older I get the more I believe in "buy once, cry once". “Lighten up Francis”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11307386 07/13/16 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,362 Clute, Texas A agazain Campfire Tracker agazain Campfire Tracker A Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,362 Clute, Texas My .280 Remington BDL DM and two separate magazines started throwing loaded round out the port when I tried to chamber. Had to go the Kwik Klip route as a remedy. With a homemade bedding job it does shoot...

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11307396 07/13/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA I've never had trouble with a 700. Best production rifles I've used. Accuracy always been top drawer .

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 JSTUART #11307447 07/13/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by JSTUART Your choice. I personally would rather brush my teeth with a chainsaw. THIS A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 jorgeI #11307499 07/13/16 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky Haters gonna hate. The 700 is my favorite 'platform' Ive got a half dozen of them and shot tens of thousands of rounds through 700s over the years.Safe to say I like them. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11307507 07/13/16 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,150 Western Pennsylvania D donsm70 Campfire Outfitter donsm70 Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,150 Western Pennsylvania I collect Model 70s, but I shoot Remington 700s and Kimbers. Just sayin' donsm70 Life Member...Safari Club International Life Member...Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Life Member...Keystone Country Elk Alliance Life Member...National Rifle Association

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11308026 07/14/16 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 26,421 Metairie, LA PaulBarnard Campfire Ranger PaulBarnard Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 26,421 Metairie, LA I am not a huge Remington fan, especially of late, but I have never had a problem with the Model 700s I have owned. I have an unmodified 700 SPS 223 that is a half inch gun with its favorite loads.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11308091 07/14/16 Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,530 Blue Ridge M MagMarc Campfire Outfitter MagMarc Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 12,530 Blue Ridge I've never had an issue with a 700 and the last 2 purchased in the last year have both been shooters.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11308139 07/14/16 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,578 U utah708 Campfire Outfitter utah708 Campfire Outfitter U Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,578 I would wait and find one without the POS DM.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11308247 07/14/16 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,016 CA 8 805 Campfire Tracker 805 Campfire Tracker 8 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,016 CA +1 Utah! If you ever plan to build on it don't get a DBM.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11310282 07/15/16 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 779 South Texas Arns9 Campfire Regular Arns9 Campfire Regular Joined: May 2004 Posts: 779 South Texas Love 700s, but wouldn't want a DM. Only a fool would sell an accurate .30-06

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11310399 07/15/16 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 468 Alabama N N2TRKYS Campfire Member N2TRKYS Campfire Member N Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 468 Alabama I've never had any issues with my DM M700s. I wish they made one in a Model Seven.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11310460 07/15/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA Never had a DM . What's so bad about them.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 moosemike #11310550 07/15/16 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,701 West of the Blue Ridge Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,701 West of the Blue Ridge Personal preference, but I've no use for a DM on a bolt action hunting rifle. It's not needed, and is just something to lose or go bad. Some guys love 'em, I suppose. Could be wrong, but it's my impression that on some rifles, the feed lips are part of the magazine, which makes the action cheaper to make, but might be a problem when you decide to re-barrel to another cartridge, or change to a fixed mag. If you really want to try a DM, I'd suggest getting a kit for a regular rifle so you can switch back. What fresh Hell is this?

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Pappy348 #11311984 07/16/16 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,942 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,942 Battle Born Originally Posted by Pappy348 Personal preference, but I've no use for a DM on a bolt action hunting rifle. It's not needed, and is just something to lose or go bad. Some guys love 'em, I suppose. Could be wrong, but it's my impression that on some rifles, the feed lips are part of the magazine, which makes the action cheaper to make, but might be a problem when you decide to re-barrel to another cartridge, or change to a fixed mag. If you really want to try a DM, I'd suggest getting a kit for a regular rifle so you can switch back. I don't like DBM either. Seems a lot here have "never had a problem" with a 700. I will be the only one here that has the balls to say I have had problems with them. The little pos they call an extractor is a joke, the trigger is a joke, J-lock (come the fu ck on) and the safety not locking the bolt is (yeah you guessed it): A joke. With this being said, the older Remington 700's were better than the later ones. Good luck with it.. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11312018 07/16/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA The extractors work fine. Just like the triggers.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 moosemike #11312020 07/16/16 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 18,911 NM S SLM Campfire Ranger SLM Campfire Ranger S Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 18,911 NM You just have to ignore the idiot. If you read enough of his BS he claims to have had trouble with just about every make. Except model 70's of course. Funny, I've got a 70 giving me fits right now.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11312077 07/16/16 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,749 Georgia G GeorgiaBoy Campfire Tracker GeorgiaBoy Campfire Tracker G Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,749 Georgia I personally do not like the BM...at any price. I would wait for an ADL or BDL. There have been several posted in the classifieds for less than $700.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11312146 07/16/16 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,876 Missouri 1 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 10gaugemag Campfire Ranger 1 Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 18,876 Missouri Personally for me if it is built after mid 80's I will pass. Still prefer the older trigger and safety that locks the bolt, problems weren't with the gun but the idiots packing them. ADL over BDL although I have only owned 1 ADL, like the cleaner look of the bottom of the blind mag. $700 is pretty steep in these parts unless wearing decent glass. The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11312282 07/16/16 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,157 The Bitteroot M mtmuley Campfire Regular mtmuley Campfire Regular M Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,157 The Bitteroot I have one of the J-lock guns. Damn thing shoots. Maybe I'm lucky. But I threw away the key the day I got it.I'll take a Remmy 700 in any flavor all day. Great rifles, just not the CF favorite. mtmuley

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 bsa1917hunter #11312300 07/16/16 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,150 Western Pennsylvania D donsm70 Campfire Outfitter donsm70 Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,150 Western Pennsylvania Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Originally Posted by Pappy348 Personal preference, but I've no use for a DM on a bolt action hunting rifle. It's not needed, and is just something to lose or go bad. Some guys love 'em, I suppose. Could be wrong, but it's my impression that on some rifles, the feed lips are part of the magazine, which makes the action cheaper to make, but might be a problem when you decide to re-barrel to another cartridge, or change to a fixed mag. If you really want to try a DM, I'd suggest getting a kit for a regular rifle so you can switch back. I don't like DBM either. Seems a lot here have "never had a problem" with a 700. I will be the only one here that has the balls to say I have had problems with them. The little pos they call an extractor is a joke, the trigger is a joke, J-lock (come the fu ck on) and the safety not locking the bolt is (yeah you guessed it): A joke. With this being said, the older Remington 700's were better than the later ones. Good luck with it.. For the most part, BSA and I are on the same page. However, the older Remington Model 700 that I own in .338 Win Mag has been a wonderful rifle for me. It has made 2 trips to Africa as my primary plains game rifle and has taken 30 plus animals. I really don't need it anymore, but just can't bring myself to sell it. Go figure. I have considered setting it up as my "Texas Hog Rifle", but certainly don't need that kind of fire power. donsm70 Life Member...Safari Club International Life Member...Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Life Member...Keystone Country Elk Alliance Life Member...National Rifle Association

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11312568 07/16/16 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,491 Alaska valley trash 7 79S Campfire Ranger 79S Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,491 Alaska valley trash No way in hell I pay $700 for a used 700. Maybe $450.. Originally Posted by Bricktop Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 SLM #11312604 07/16/16 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,621 GA wareagle700 Campfire Regular wareagle700 Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,621 GA Remington 700's usually take a little work to get them shooting right but I still wouldn't turn one down for the right price. No way would I pay $700 for a used factory model. When I get one, Its usually stripped down to just the barreled action and put back together with quality parts. Factory Remington's are pretty bad here lately but they can be made into nice guns. John 8:12 "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11312673 07/16/16 Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,517 S Sako76 Campfire Tracker Sako76 Campfire Tracker S Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,517 I have a bunch of 700's and they all are shooters! Haters gonna hate!

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11312715 07/16/16 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,223 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,223 Northern Louisiana If looking for a solid hunting rifle with lots of aftermarket options, I've always found it hard to pass up a new or used stainless 700. I often re-stock them with a stiff handle of laminate or fiberglass, tune the trigger to 2-2.5lbs, and proceed to find a good sub-moa load in short order. Not had a bad one yet. I have had a few 700s that benefited from a new crown, but that's about it. Now with even more aplomb

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 JSTUART #11314533 07/17/16 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,121 WI. R Redneck Campfire Kahuna Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,121 WI. Originally Posted by JSTUART Your choice. I personally would rather brush my teeth with a chainsaw. LMAO... But I hear ya.. To the OP - I'd pass, personally.. Due to price and DBM issues.. Not to mention triggers and detached bolt handles.. Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Redneck #11314561 07/17/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by Redneck Originally Posted by JSTUART Your choice. I personally would rather brush my teeth with a chainsaw. LMAO... But I hear ya.. To the OP - I'd pass, personally.. Due to price and DBM issues.. Not to mention triggers and detached bolt handles.. Forgot to mention flimsy extractor and a safety that does not lock the bolt... A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 jorgeI #11315215 07/18/16 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,121 WI. R Redneck Campfire Kahuna Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,121 WI. Originally Posted by jorgeI Originally Posted by Redneck Originally Posted by JSTUART Your choice. I personally would rather brush my teeth with a chainsaw. LMAO... But I hear ya.. To the OP - I'd pass, personally.. Due to price and DBM issues.. Not to mention triggers and detached bolt handles.. Forgot to mention flimsy extractor and a safety that does not lock the bolt... I wuz tryin' to be tactful and polite.. Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11315266 07/18/16 Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 12,192 Northern Colorado Tracks Campfire Outfitter Tracks Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 12,192 Northern Colorado I have three 700s and I'm happy with them. I'll admit none of them are factory stock but they aren't much different. They put the bullets where I want them and kill stuff dead enough they don't know they were shot with a inferior rifle.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11316823 07/18/16 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,347 Denver 30338 Campfire Outfitter 30338 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,347 Denver I wouldn't pay $700 for a used one unless it was something out of the custom shop.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Tracks #11316840 07/18/16 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,121 WI. R Redneck Campfire Kahuna Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,121 WI. I actually have two - an older 700 I rebarreled to .358 STA and a newer (well, circa 1990)all-original 700 in .17 Remington.. THAT rifle is just SO much fun to shoot.. Topped with a Leupold Vari-X IIc AO 4x12 any varmint within 300 yards has NO chance.. But - as is typical with 700s with small-faced bolts it nearly always drops the empty casing onto the follower unless the bolt's operated with alacrity. I don't care though - this one's used basically as a single-shot anyway.. I dragged it outta the safe yesterday and set up on the back deck. The damned striped gophers have been getting away with murder lately.. That chit's gonna END.. Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 PaulBarnard #11319343 07/20/16 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 320 R rbell Campfire Member rbell Campfire Member R Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 320 I own more winchesters than remingtons because I really like them. But when it comes to hunting I take the candidates for the year out to the range and shoot them in hunting positions, and a certain old Remington Classic in 3006 wins every year. I have taken it hunting most every year since 1981. I did have problems with the extractor breaking at first but once that was fixed, no problems trigger or otherwise for at least 30years. . I have looked at the new remingtons and wouldn't buy them.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11319483 07/20/16 Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 919 MISSOURI I IMR4350 Campfire Regular IMR4350 Campfire Regular I Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 919 MISSOURI I have an ADL and a BDL, both made in the eighties. Never had any problems with them and they shoot great. Never owned one with a DM.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 rbell #11319818 07/20/16 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,121 WI. R Redneck Campfire Kahuna Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,121 WI. Originally Posted by rbell I own more winchesters than remingtons because I really like them. But when it comes to hunting I take the candidates for the year out to the range and shoot them in hunting positions, and a certain old Remington Classic in 3006 wins every year. I have taken it hunting most every year since 1981. I did have problems with the extractor breaking at first but once that was fixed, no problems trigger or otherwise for at least 30years.. Dang, man, you need to buy a LOTTO ticket ----TODAY!! Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Redneck #11320693 07/20/16 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,385 Michigan 28lx Campfire Regular 28lx Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,385 Michigan So most 700 owners should probably go buy lottery tickets😮

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 28lx #11320979 07/20/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA Originally Posted by 28lx So most 700 owners should probably go buy lottery tickets😮 That's my takeaway as well but it's poor advice since I play the lottery a couple times a week but I never win even though a 700 has never given me a problem.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Redneck #11321141 07/20/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by rbell I a certain old Remington Classic in 3006 I did have problems with the extractor breaking at first And this is yet another reason why 700s are avoided like the plague in Africa... A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 jorgeI #11321589 07/21/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA Except for Harry Selby's glowing report after decades of use of a Remington 721.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11322092 07/21/16 Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,601 A little further North... 1Nut Campfire Regular 1Nut Campfire Regular Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,601 A little further North... I've got five 700s. Ranging from .243 to .338. Not a huge fan of the DBM (only have one, and it's never given me a problem). All shoot quite well, though I have a 30-06 that took some time to find a load it likes. Seems I reach for my 700 in .260 as often as any rifle I own these days. I tend to shoot far more than the average fella. YMMV. Last edited by 1Nut; 07/21/16. Nut Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 moosemike #11322121 07/21/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by moosemike Except for Harry Selby's glowing report after decades of use of a Remington 721. My statement is still accurate..It wasn't a 700... A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Sako76 #11322154 07/21/16 Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 403 NC G Guybo54 Campfire Member Guybo54 Campfire Member G Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 403 NC Originally Posted by Sako76 I have a bunch of 700's and they all are shooters! Haters gonna hate! Ditto! I have owned quite a few Remington rifles over the years and still own several and i've never had any problems what so ever getting a Remington rifle to shoot accurately. I do agree however that the newer Remington's are not the same quality as the older ones. Life's Tough, God's Good, Pray Hard!

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 jorgeI #11322664 07/21/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA Originally Posted by jorgeI Originally Posted by moosemike Except for Harry Selby's glowing report after decades of use of a Remington 721. My statement is still accurate..It wasn't a 700... The 700 was an improvement. So I can't follow you on that.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 moosemike #11322682 07/21/16 Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,823 Texas southtexas Campfire Tracker southtexas Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,823 Texas Originally Posted by moosemike The 700 was an improvement. In what way?

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11322787 07/21/16 Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,742 Midwest H Horseman Campfire Regular Horseman Campfire Regular H Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,742 Midwest I own all kinds of rifles...700's, 70's Sakos, Browning, Weatherby, Ruger, Howa,Kimber etc. None are perfect. I suppose the Army and Marines should tell the hunting experts going to Africa that the 700 won't work in dangerous situations. They've been using it with factory extractor for 40 years. And I'd bet at our local club there are more rounds fired from 700's in a day than 70's for a year. I appreciate the firing pin blocking safety and locking bolt on the 70 but find it less easily manipulated than the 700 or Sako when hunting. I use older pre 82 700 actions with locking bolt to build. To each his own but I'm using more 700's or Sakos the past several seasons.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11322794 07/21/16 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,638 E of the Rockies, W of the res... bellydeep Campfire Tracker bellydeep Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,638 E of the Rockies, W of the res... All of mine (4) are very accurate. Never had any problems with them. Originally Posted by shrapnel I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. Originally Posted by JohnBurns I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 southtexas #11323404 07/21/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by southtexas Originally Posted by moosemike The 700 was an improvement. In what way? If you define improvement as skipping steps, using cheaper materials (such as sheet metal extractors, brazed on bolt handles, safeties that don't lock the bolt, not to mention the fact it is an unreliable safety), then "improvement" in this case would be accurate. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11323430 07/21/16 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 468 Alabama N N2TRKYS Campfire Member N2TRKYS Campfire Member N Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 468 Alabama What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on?

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 N2TRKYS #11323529 07/21/16 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,385 Michigan 28lx Campfire Regular 28lx Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,385 Michigan Originally Posted by N2TRKYS What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on? Some guys don't want a chance of the bolt opening while they're hiking or stalking thru the woods so they prefer the safty to lock the bolt down. I prefer for the bolt to unlock with the safety on for unloading.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 28lx #11323591 07/22/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by 28lx Originally Posted by N2TRKYS What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on? Some guys don't want a chance of the bolt opening while they're hiking or stalking thru the woods so they prefer the safty to lock the bolt down. I prefer for the bolt to unlock with the safety on for unloading. Hence, that is why GOD created Model 70s. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 jorgeI #11323601 07/22/16 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,701 West of the Blue Ridge Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,701 West of the Blue Ridge Yup, also Ruger MkIIs, Hawkeyes, etc. I also like the ones that lift the sear away from the trigger in the locked position. What fresh Hell is this?

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 N2TRKYS #11323821 07/22/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA Originally Posted by N2TRKYS What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on? Exactly. And what he's apparently not privy to is the 700 was made for over 20 years with a locking bolt.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 jorgeI #11324019 07/22/16 Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 468 Alabama N N2TRKYS Campfire Member N2TRKYS Campfire Member N Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 468 Alabama Originally Posted by jorgeI Originally Posted by 28lx Originally Posted by N2TRKYS What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on? Some guys don't want a chance of the bolt opening while they're hiking or stalking thru the woods so they prefer the safty to lock the bolt down. I prefer for the bolt to unlock with the safety on for unloading. Hence, that is why GOD created Model 70s. I can understand that. I like my non-locking M700, too. I love my push fed M70. Although, I don't think I've ever put the safety in the lock position.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 moosemike #11324192 07/22/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by moosemike Originally Posted by N2TRKYS What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on? Exactly. And what he's apparently not privy to is the 700 was made for over 20 years with a locking bolt. And they removed that as a cost-cutting measure. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11324264 07/22/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA And the 721 has a brazed on bolt handle as well, no?

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11324312 07/22/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida No idea. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 N2TRKYS #11324393 07/22/16 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 B BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana BobinNH Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 35,900 Originally Posted by N2TRKYS What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on? Possibility of a misfire for one thing. The 280 Remington is overbore. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11324400 07/22/16 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,911 PA I had a 721 and I'm pretty sure it had a brazed on bolt handle. And if the extractors were any better at all it's moot because you can't get a replacement if it does break but it's easy to get a 700 extractor. Also whatever is a stamped part on a 700 also is stamped on a 721.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11331058 07/25/16 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,063 Arizona H HaYen Campfire Regular HaYen Campfire Regular H Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,063 Arizona I would do a DBM rifle as a tactical shooter. i would also swap out the the trigger. HaYen Remember, not everyone has a happy ending, so be happy when you can

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11331176 07/25/16 Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 407 B bartman Campfire Member bartman Campfire Member B Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 407 Have had 700/70/77/Xbolt/336/1895/M94/RAR rifles. Some in several different models. All failed at some point or another in functioning test except for the NH 6.5 Swede Featherweight, the Xbolt .270 and the 336 made by Remington. Would like to find an old Sako but they are rare in my neighborhood.

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 28lx #11361959 08/09/16 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,749 Georgia G GeorgiaBoy Campfire Tracker GeorgiaBoy Campfire Tracker G Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,749 Georgia Originally Posted by 28lx Originally Posted by N2TRKYS What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on? Some guys don't want a chance of the bolt opening while they're hiking or stalking thru the woods so they prefer the safty to lock the bolt down. I prefer for the bolt to unlock with the safety on for unloading. Bingo!

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 GeorgiaBoy #11362242 08/09/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy Originally Posted by 28lx Originally Posted by N2TRKYS What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on? Some guys don't want a chance of the bolt opening while they're hiking or stalking thru the woods so they prefer the safty to lock the bolt down. I prefer for the bolt to unlock with the safety on for unloading. Bingo! And in a Model 70 you can do BOTH, merely by selecting the middle position on the safety. With a non-locking bolt safety, the bolt can be easily snagged whilst hunting and have the round drop out. The bolt used to lock on 700s but as a CHEAPER version, they eliminated that. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 jorgeI #11362289 08/09/16 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky I just bought another 700. True Story "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11362290 08/09/16 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida Love the 700 but the rifle mentioned in the OP would have no appeal to me at all. Travis Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 jorgeI #11362303 08/09/16 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,621 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,621 Midwest Originally Posted by jorgeI With a non-locking bolt safety, the bolt can be easily snagged whilst hunting and have the round drop out. I expect this sort of rhetoric from savage99 - not from guys that actually hunt. WWP53D

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 ingwe #11362307 08/09/16 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico Originally Posted by ingwe I just bought another 700. True Story You're such a "rifle slut." Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 SKane #11362308 08/09/16 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky I never had that happen. Ever. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 elkhunternm #11362309 08/09/16 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky Originally Posted by elkhunternm Originally Posted by ingwe I just bought another 700. True Story You're such a "rifle slut." Its worse than you think....details later... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 ingwe #11362320 08/09/16 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico So,you have passed me in the "rifle slut" category? Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 elkhunternm #11362323 08/09/16 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky Yes...easily...but I can't divulge the details just yet.Suffice it to say this last purchase may be considered by some to be...shall we say....'flamboyant'.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 Travis13 #11362340 08/09/16 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 95,791 Southern New Mexico "Flamboyant" huh,well then I'm waiting for the details with abated breath! Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 SKane #11362358 08/09/16 Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,580 Orange Park, Florida Originally Posted by SKane Originally Posted by jorgeI With a non-locking bolt safety, the bolt can be easily snagged whilst hunting and have the round drop out. I expect this sort of rhetoric from savage99 - not from guys that actually hunt. Ask around, been reported here a few times. As to actually hunting and before the usual suspects chime in, I mostly PAY to hunt! A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 ingwe #11362374 08/09/16 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun 2muchgun Campfire Ranger 2muchgun Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun Originally Posted by ingwe Yes...easily...but I can't divulge the details just yet.Suffice it to say this last purchase may be considered by some to be...shall we say....'flamboyant'.... Do tell. Enquiring minds want to know..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 ingwe #11362625 08/10/16 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,701 West of the Blue Ridge Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,701 West of the Blue Ridge Originally Posted by ingwe Yes...easily...but I can't divulge the details just yet.Suffice it to say this last purchase may be considered by some to be...shall we say....'flamboyant'.... Did any large, spotted cats die to create this flamboyance? What fresh Hell is this?

Re: Here's My Chance.......Never Owned a M700 moosemike #11362730 08/10/16 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip T tzone Campfire 'Bwana tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip Originally Posted by moosemike Never had a DM . What's so bad about them. Notin. They're fine. Camp is where you make it.