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my usual source is out, looking for the 1200 round case, or PMC M193 not their 223 ammo.


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I believe Mark at Summit has some. I've used several cases in Dept. Sig 556's and it is good, accurate ammo.

http://summitgunbroker.com/5-56-xm193.html


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Out everywhere I normally buy, too, but the Independence brand is made by IMI as far as I know, if you want to go that route.

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Ableammo.com has it.

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I have not shot any of the independence ammo, can you assume it is the same as the brown cardboard boxes that hold 30 of the IMI cartridges? I guess I can get PMC again, its 3200fps.


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Palmetto usually has the Independence stuff at good prices if you watch for the sales the have.


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Fiocchi 55gr 50rd box $15.95

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jimmyp, let me check my deleted email. Just saw some offered today. May have been CDNN. I'll check.


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Yeah, Midway has IMI, Selway Armory has Independence (IMI).


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thanks all, Midway is 41 cents a round plus shipping.


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thanks all, Midway is 41 cents a round plus shipping.
But you get a groovy can.

They are all pretty proud of that stuff. Must be elections.


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Palmetto has Independence at $350/k


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Originally Posted by SargeMO
I believe Mark at Summit has some. I've used several cases in Dept. Sig 556's and it is good, accurate ammo.

http://summitgunbroker.com/5-56-xm193.html


Isn't it funny what some folks consider accurate and others consider accurate.

I've shot quite a bit of IMI years ago, when we were learning, it was ok, but not accurate overall IMHO.

But then again as you've pointed out, generally don't need what some of us consider to be accurate for most things.


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I believe Mark at Summit has some. I've used several cases in Dept. Sig 556's and it is good, accurate ammo.

http://summitgunbroker.com/5-56-xm193.html


Isn't it funny what some folks consider accurate and others consider accurate.

I've shot quite a bit of IMI years ago, when we were learning, it was ok, but not accurate overall IMHO.

But then again as you've pointed out, generally don't need what some of us consider to be accurate for most things.


I don't think anyone is touting IMI (or any other factory FMJ) as match grade accurate by any means of the word..........but relative to most other factory FMJ, it's better than most.

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I don't shoot IMI because it is more accurate. I shoot it for the brass which is some of the best made.
It has a thicker stronger web that will stand up better to stout loads.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
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I believe Mark at Summit has some. I've used several cases in Dept. Sig 556's and it is good, accurate ammo.

http://summitgunbroker.com/5-56-xm193.html


Isn't it funny what some folks consider accurate and others consider accurate.

I've shot quite a bit of IMI years ago, when we were learning, it was ok, but not accurate overall IMHO.

But then again as you've pointed out, generally don't need what some of us consider to be accurate for most things.


I don't think anyone is touting IMI (or any other factory FMJ) as match grade accurate by any means of the word..........but relative to most other factory FMJ, it's better than most.

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For the conversation, the best I ever shot in 308 was hirtenberger.

In 223 it was stamped FNM.

the fliers in FMJ ammo drive me nuts.

Mexican match works fine though.


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This is why I shoot IMI M193, a Colt 6720 pencil barreled carbine with a T2 Aimpoint on top at 100 yards. I can't shoot a red dot any better with better ammo. This was bought at .35 a round.
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This is my 6920 with 77 gr NCC reloads and an Aimpoint PRO at 100 yards.
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IMI M193 is great practice ammo and it's plenty accurate for that.

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It is very good brass.


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what is the difference? IMI is M193 and Independence XM193???


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