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Originally Posted by isaac
I suspect that 90% of the blacks will vote for Hillary and this means she will probably pick up a swing state, Virginia.

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Just the opposite, actually. With the selection of Kaine, rather than a Booker type selection, how many blacks do you believe will vote this election in comparison to 2012?


I think you're right Bob, I was talking to my cleaning guy last night about this. He's a conservative hard working country black guy. We all know where the inner-city blacks stand on this, but the church going, hard working blacks from the country are different. He said they all know how corrupt and socialistic Hillary is, and they need a change just like the rest of us. They're sick of high taxes and want more money in their pockets. They know that something needs to be done about illegal immigration and terrorism also. He said that a lot of them won't really come out and admit it to the other brothers, but he can tell that they're swinging towards Trump. He said last time, they were voting for Obama because of hope and change and thought he would help them. He didn't and they're pizzed and don't want another 4 years of this schit. He said that even though they won't admit it, when they get into the voting booth, a larger percentage will vote for Trump that won't really be reflected in the polls.

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Good. The blacks won't turn out to vote for an all white ticket, not in big numbers, and Kaine is very disliked in VA these days.

Desperation pick on her part and damaging to both.


as President Johnson said so accurately in 1964 "I'll have those N iggers voting democratic for the next 200 years"

Blacks are not going to leave hillary over something as minor as an all white ticket.


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Trump needs to pick up the Sanders vote. It shouldn't be that hard to position himself as the alternative candidate.

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Trump needs to pick up the Sanders vote. It shouldn't be that hard to position himself as the alternative candidate.


Trump will not be picking up Sanders votes. Dhimmicrats, for all their real and imagined faults, always manage to band together and vote the ticket in the Presidential election. That one trait is why they win, and Conservatives lose. GOP is more worried about party purity, than in winning.


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My read on it Sam suggests that Trump will not only get some Sanders' dissident votes but, just as good;a large percentage of Sanders voters simply won't cast a vote, at all.

This will be a turnout election, imo coupled with how the Independents and various unions roll.

I'm seeing a deja vu of the Reagan election.


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People are to 'fixated' on the black vote.

The top 3 states with the highest percentages of blacks, went RED in 08 and 12.


In contrast, some of the WHITEST states went BLUE.


Again, it's the stupid, lily white Yankees that are the problem.

And of course LEFT coast.


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Right again Bob.

As far as the unions are concerned, remember, she wants to shut down the coal industry.


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This ain't about the VP picks.

This entire race is about Trump and Hillary, and all that boils down to.

Both VP picks were chosen for their blandness.

The strong personalities remain front and center.


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No one is threatening to jump ship because of Pence.

Not the case with Kaine.

VP picks are relevant, imo.


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I'm just glad she didn't grab Bernie.


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Trump/Pence - TP to get rid of the chit from the last 8 years.


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To hear people talk so negative, you would think that Republicans have not won office since dis-honest Abe. miles


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Originally Posted by StoneCutter
Originally Posted by isaac
I suspect that 90% of the blacks will vote for Hillary and this means she will probably pick up a swing state, Virginia.

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Just the opposite, actually. With the selection of Kaine, rather than a Booker type selection, how many blacks do you believe will vote this election in comparison to 2012?


I think you're right Bob, I was talking to my cleaning guy last night about this. He's a conservative hard working country black guy. We all know where the inner-city blacks stand on this, but the church going, hard working blacks from the country are different. He said they all know how corrupt and socialistic Hillary is, and they need a change just like the rest of us. They're sick of high taxes and want more money in their pockets. They know that something needs to be done about illegal immigration and terrorism also. He said that a lot of them won't really come out and admit it to the other brothers, but he can tell that they're swinging towards Trump. He said last time, they were voting for Obama because of hope and change and thought he would help them. He didn't and they're pizzed and don't want another 4 years of this schit. He said that even though they won't admit it, when they get into the voting booth, a larger percentage will vote for Trump that won't really be reflected in the polls.


I wonder about this as well, and not just with the black population. I think a great many hispanics and women won't admit publicly that they will support Trump, but may just pull the lever for him when in the booth.


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Originally Posted by StoneCutter
Originally Posted by isaac
I suspect that 90% of the blacks will vote for Hillary and this means she will probably pick up a swing state, Virginia.

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Just the opposite, actually. With the selection of Kaine, rather than a Booker type selection, how many blacks do you believe will vote this election in comparison to 2012?


I think you're right Bob, I was talking to my cleaning guy last night about this. He's a conservative hard working country black guy. We all know where the inner-city blacks stand on this, but the church going, hard working blacks from the country are different. He said they all know how corrupt and socialistic Hillary is, and they need a change just like the rest of us. They're sick of high taxes and want more money in their pockets. They know that something needs to be done about illegal immigration and terrorism also. He said that a lot of them won't really come out and admit it to the other brothers, but he can tell that they're swinging towards Trump. He said last time, they were voting for Obama because of hope and change and thought he would help them. He didn't and they're pizzed and don't want another 4 years of this schit. He said that even though they won't admit it, when they get into the voting booth, a larger percentage will vote for Trump that won't really be reflected in the polls.

They'll vote democrat when the time comes.

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all I'm saying, is that dhimmicrats tend to vote the chosen candidate. Republicans tend to stay away (remember those of us here, that did not vote in the last two elections?). If the GOP candidate does not please every single issue constituent, they stay home, or 'vote their conscience' by pissing away their vote on a third party candidate.
Ergo, GOP lost the last two elections, and will lose this one too, unless all the party votes Trump.
This is not a Euro style election, where there is power sharing among the losers. It's winner take all. A concept so simple, even Johnson and Ron Paul supporters should be able to understand it.
Bernie lovers will pull the hillary lever in the booth. Trust me on this.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
People are to 'fixated' on the black vote.

The top 3 states with the highest percentages of blacks, went RED in 08 and 12.


In contrast, some of the WHITEST states went BLUE.


Again, it's the stupid, lily white Yankees that are the problem.

And of course LEFT coast.



PA is pretty whiterrible and other than three areas of the state it went red. But those three areas are huge centers of black populations.. quite frankly Noone living inside city limits should be allowed to vote regardless of race


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I can just imagine how the Commies are gonna carry on about *this* pick.




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Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by Steelhead
People are to 'fixated' on the black vote.

The top 3 states with the highest percentages of blacks, went RED in 08 and 12.


In contrast, some of the WHITEST states went BLUE.


Again, it's the stupid, lily white Yankees that are the problem.

And of course LEFT coast.







PA is pretty whiterrible and other than three areas of the state it went red. But those three areas are huge centers of black populations.. quite frankly Noone living inside city limits should be allowed to vote regardless of race



Mississippi is 37% BLACK and Obama didn't win Mississippi in 2008 nor 2012

Pennsylvania is 10% BLACK and went Obama in 2008 and 2012.


Please, tell me again how WHITE YANKEES aren't the problem?


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Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by Steelhead
People are to 'fixated' on the black vote.

The top 3 states with the highest percentages of blacks, went RED in 08 and 12.


In contrast, some of the WHITEST states went BLUE.


Again, it's the stupid, lily white Yankees that are the problem.

And of course LEFT coast.







PA is pretty whiterrible and other than three areas of the state it went red. But those three areas are huge centers of black populations.. quite frankly Noone living inside city limits should be allowed to vote regardless of race



Mississippi is 37% BLACK and Obama didn't win Mississippi in 2008 nor 2012

Pennsylvania is 10% BLACK and went Obama in 2008 and 2012.


Please, tell me again how WHITE YANKEES aren't the problem?



MS has 2.9 million people so 1.07 million votes
PA has 12.7 million people so 1.2 million votes

Percentages don't tell the whole story - essentially the same for both states tho a huge disparity in percentages.



WTF are you talking about? Percentages DO tell the whole story concerning who is voting for who.

PA has a black population of 10%, Obama gets 54% of the vote in PA. That AIN'T the black vote.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
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Originally Posted by Steelhead
People are to 'fixated' on the black vote.

The top 3 states with the highest percentages of blacks, went RED in 08 and 12.


In contrast, some of the WHITEST states went BLUE.


Again, it's the stupid, lily white Yankees that are the problem.

And of course LEFT coast.







PA is pretty whiterrible and other than three areas of the state it went red. But those three areas are huge centers of black populations.. quite frankly Noone living inside city limits should be allowed to vote regardless of race



Mississippi is 37% BLACK and Obama didn't win Mississippi in 2008 nor 2012

Pennsylvania is 10% BLACK and went Obama in 2008 and 2012.


Please, tell me again how WHITE YANKEES aren't the problem?



Again scott, look at the map. Aside from philthadelphia and schittsburgh. And I think the harrisburg/Scranton area...the entire rest of the state went red.

It's not white/black problem it's an urban/rural problem

How many large cities does Mississippi have?


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