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I need to have a 260 Remington re-barreled and am considering the 6.5 Creedmore. Against re-barreling to this cartridge are 1,000 260 cases and dies. I hate to spend more money than I need to. Having shot both cartridges a little, it seems to me that the 6.5 Creedmoor only has 2 advantages over the 260: 1. If you are shooting bullets longer than the 1.320" 130 grain AB. 2. If you want to shoot excellent factory ammo. Answer those 2 questions and you will know which fork in the road to take to 6.5mm bore nirvana. If you like you existing 260 barrel, would it be worth the effort to set it back, cut a fresh chamber and get a fresh throat? Never owned a 260 but #2 above in Jeff's post did it for me... I wanted a cartridge for which I did not even have to think about reloading and for 20-25 bucks I can get good accurate factory ammo. I do have brass and dies and will get around to loading the Creedmoor eventually but I sure don't have to worry about it. Here's the first 3 shot group fired with the 120 Amax factory ammo at 300 yards.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I need to have a 260 Remington re-barreled and am considering the 6.5 Creedmore. Against re-barreling to this cartridge are 1,000 260 cases and dies. I hate to spend more money than I need to. The two primary advantages to a 6.5CM are: 1) Great factory ammunition - You're going to handload, no advantage. 2) Factory rifles w/ 8" twist barrel to reliably stabilize the long 140+grn bullets. - You're about to order a barrel, you spec the twist rate, there's no advantage to a 6.5CM for you here either. Yes, the long bullets eat into the 260 case more than the 6.5CM - so what? You start with more capacity in the 260. Loaded to equal pressures, the 260 meets or exceeds the 6.5CM velocities. David
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Here's something that will never be said about a 6.5 Creedmore:Today 07/24/2016 two new pending 1000 yard world records were shot at Harry Jones 1000 yard range in Fairview West Virginia. It was a 10 shot heavy gun Group (2.856) and Score (100 3X) shot with a 6.5X47 Lapua.http://forum.accurateshooter.com/attachments/target2-jpg.985840/
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Here's something that will never be said about a 6.5 Creedmore:Today 07/24/2016 two new pending 1000 yard world records were shot at Harry Jones 1000 yard range in Fairview West Virginia. It was a 10 shot heavy gun Group (2.856) and Score (100 3X) shot with a 6.5X47 Lapua.http://forum.accurateshooter.com/attachments/target2-jpg.985840/ And WHO gives a shiet?
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Looking for speed I wouldn't buy either a Creed or a 260. Both are pretty anemic in that department. Don't care about match records either. Not into that . Just wanted an easy going, accurate rifle/cartridge for range play with accurate factory ammo. I may not even hunt it....I don't expect it to show me anything I haven't seen already. But I know it'll work. You can't go the range these days without seeing someone shooting a Creed. It's a good cartridge.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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To add to the confusion, Ruger is now making the Hawkeye FTW in both .260 and 6.5CR. The twist on both is 8". Accoring to Wieland's article in Rifle, the Army has designated the .260 as some kind of SP round, creating new interest. Some good new factory ammo for it would be nice.
Hopefully, with the hammer-forge mandrels in hand at Ruger, there will be some .260 rifles in other configurations as well.
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I really like the 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm primarily a deer hunter and steel buster. It performs excellent in both of those categories.
Another big plus is ammo and loading components. The ammo selection is great and brass has been readily available. Brass is drying up as of late for most other cartridges.
It's a mild cartridge that does everything I want to do.
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I really like the 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm primarily a deer hunter and steel buster. It performs excellent in both of those categories.
Another big plus is ammo and loading components. The ammo selection is great and brass has been readily available. Brass is drying up as of late for most other cartridges.
It's a mild cartridge that does everything I want to do. Daryl, I just wish you could get Ruger to make a special run of RAR predators in stainless for us lefty's Doc
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Give me the 260....
already had my first since 1998....
if nothing else its a brass availability issue....
I've only ever used one bag of brass labeled 260, and that was back when my first rifle was new.. and it was Remington Factory brass... which sucked...
but then with all the 243, 7/08s and 308s in the world, I've never been short of brass that I just neck to fit the 260s I have.
not being a benchrest competitor, it more than meets my needs at close or ( for me) longer ranges....
a 260 barrel on a long action, with a one in 8 twist is a wonderful thing....
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[quote=shortactionsmoker]I really like the 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm primarily a deer hunter and steel buster. It performs excellent in both of those categories.
Daryl,
I just wish you could get Ruger to make a special run of RAR predators in stainless for us lefty's
Doc Yes us Lefty,s need one
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Give me the 260....
already had my first since 1998....
if nothing else its a brass availability issue....
I've only ever used one bag of brass labeled 260, and that was back when my first rifle was new.. and it was Remington Factory brass... which sucked...
but then with all the 243, 7/08s and 308s in the world, I've never been short of brass that I just neck to fit the 260s I have.
not being a benchrest competitor, it more than meets my needs at close or ( for me) longer ranges....
a 260 barrel on a long action, with a one in 8 twist is a wonderful thing.... Agreed about the brass. Hard to go wrong with anything based on the 308 Win case. As for the long action, you can keep it. Short action with barrel chambered/throated accordingly is the ticket.....
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What's not to like about the Creed? Low recoil, great factory ammo and very accurate even in a budget rifle like the RAR.
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I really like the 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm primarily a deer hunter and steel buster. It performs excellent in both of those categories.
Another big plus is ammo and loading components. The ammo selection is great and brass has been readily available. Brass is drying up as of late for most other cartridges.
It's a mild cartridge that does everything I want to do. Daryl, I just wish you could get Ruger to make a special run of RAR predators in stainless for us lefty's Doc Who's Daryl?
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One of Larry's brothers.
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If nothing else, Creedmoor is a way cool name.
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One of Larry's brothers.
David Actually, both of Larry's brothers on Bob Newhart's three Vermont B&B sitcoms were named Darryl.
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David Laughed my butt off David!
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Looking for speed I wouldn't buy either a Creed or a 260. It's a good cartridge. +1 It is a well designed, very efficient ctg. For speed, I have the 26 Nosler and behind that, the 6.5-284. But, I really like my Creedmoor. It kills stuff very dead. DF
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What's not to like about the Creed? Low recoil, great factory ammo and very accurate even in a budget rifle like the RAR. Great picture. It appears the young dude can shoot........
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Great picture. It appears the young dude can shoot........ He did pretty good for his first two. The big doe on the left was ranged at 200yds and the button buck was about 180yds. I was using the 140gr A-Max and he shot both through the shoulders and they dropped instantly and both exited with about a quarter size exit hole.
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