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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/573447262 This one could be interesting to watch. For whatever reason I thought they were all standard weights.
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it will interesting to see the followup comments, TAG
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The roll stamping looks all wrong to me. 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Fake. Winchester would have never let that gun leave the factory with the address beneath the stock line and the Definitive Winchester Proof in a vertical orientation. The barrel bluing is also not right. Obviously, there are a few who think it's the real deal....
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I'm in agreement with you Pocono. The proof stamp, kind of makes you want to run the other way...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Polish on the barrel seems wrong.
Not liking the fit of the front sight.
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![[Linked Image]](http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j325/5344/July%2024%202016%20004.jpg) Flat spot around roll stamp. I could be wrong...
Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.
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Caliber designation should be 250-3000 SAV.
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...the originality speaks for itself alright! I'd be willing to bet that this was a product of a little shop somewhere in Korea or Japan.
Deadlines and commitments, what to leave in, what to leave out...
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Kicking around M70's since the 1970's among a lot of sophisticated shops and collectors. Never seen these things and all of a sudden these "rare" calibers show up.
Never any factory authentication but we know how that goes .
What I want to know is....where were these rare rifles the last 50 years?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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For the time frame this rifle was built ( assuming original) what rifling twist did Winchester use 1/10 or 1/14?
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The marking is so poor that it looks laser marked
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No expert here but the bumpy nature of the barrel lettering looks more like modern laser engraving, not roll stamping. Could be just the picture but would be enough to give me pause if I were a serious buyer. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j325/5344/July%2024%202016%20016.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.rockislandauction.com/photos/58/p_standard/MCM40-F-CU26-L.jpg)
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Bidding up to $2500. It's ashhame someone is going to get taken on this one.
Last edited by robertacabin; 07/25/16.
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The letters look like mis-strike you'd find on a coin. The only way it could be legitimized if it came with the original box. 
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Scarcest M70 I recall actually seeing in the flesh was a pre war in 405 Winchester. Supposedly one of a pair, but it had a factory letter of authenticity. The whereabouts of the other was unknown.
IIRC these rifles were mentioned in a footnote or somewhere in Rule's book.
Never seen nor heard of these scarce FW chamberings that have suddenly popped up the last few years.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The fakers would have no problem coming up with a box. There is no way that gun is legit....
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Bidding up to $4200. Damn.
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A fool and his money are soon parted so says WC Fields. I believe he would be correct in this instance.
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