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Originally Posted by moosemike
And as far as yankee gun owners go, they're all on the Trump bandwagon from what I see. It's the non hunters voting Democrat.


Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.... How many union gun owners and hunters do you know in PA? Hint.


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I think that Trump will probably get a majority of the 30+ white male vote, but that is unlikely enough to beat Clinton, since she appeals to woman, minorities, and most special interest groups.

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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by moosemike
And as far as yankee gun owners go, they're all on the Trump bandwagon from what I see. It's the non hunters voting Democrat.


Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.... How many union gun owners and hunters do you know in PA? Hint.


I was in the Painters Union. A lot of us let the AFL-CIO propaganda go in one ear and out the other. Lots of Republicans in the Union.

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And as far as yankee gun owners go, they're all on the Trump bandwagon from what I see. It's the non hunters voting Democrat.


Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.... How many union gun owners and hunters do you know in PA? Hint.


I was in the Painters Union. A lot of us let the AFL-CIO propaganda go in one ear and out the other. Lots of Republicans in the Union.


Right. That's why exit polling always has the Union vote so strongly D in PA, OH, MI, etc.

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Election-night polling by Peter Hart for the AFL-CIO showed that 67 percent of union members voted for Obama while only 30 percent chose McCain. (Compare that to the 51 to 47 percent advantage Obama had over McCain in exit polls of non-union voters.) The union advantage was slightly higher in battleground states.

Most dramatically, union membership made a big difference in how well Obama performed. Union members over 65 voted by a 46-point margin for Obama, while all voters over 65 voted for McCain by an 8-point margin. Obama won by 23 points among white non-college graduates who belong to a union, even as he lost by 18 points among all white non-college voters.

Obama lost heavily among gun owners and white weekly churchgoers–except if they were union members. Then they voted for Obama, though by slim margins.


Hell, the only group more likely to have voted for Hussein than unions was blacks. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...f-union-membership-on-democratic-voting/

Damned facts anyway, right?

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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I think that Trump will probably get a majority of the 30+ white male vote, but that is unlikely enough to beat Clinton, since she appeals to woman, minorities, and most special interest groups.


There's a multitude of threads on this in the HC. Feel free to join in, read a bit about the actual breakdown of the electoral vote and what states/groups matter where and why.


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760's, 7600's, 141's

Talk about the Yankee bullschit in the Yankee bullschitt thread. grin

Which the entire NE could participate in.


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Originally Posted by tzone
760's, 7600's, 141's

Talk about the Yankee bullschit in the Yankee bullschitt thread. grin

Which the entire NE could participate in.

Don't forget the Model Six which Jerry owns 75% of total production grin

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There used to be a small shop very close to the NC border in SW VA that had more 14s, 14 1/2s, and 141s than you could believe. I recall them having .38-40s, .44-40s, .25, .30, .32, and .35 Rems in all the various configurations.


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Of course, I think I'm going to have to shoot a deer with the Model 25 in .25-20 soon, just because.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
There used to be a small shop very close to the NC border in SW VA that had more 14s, 14 1/2s, and 141s than you could believe. I recall them having .38-40s, .44-40s, .25, .30, .32, and .35 Rems in all the various configurations.


What town?

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There used to be a small shop very close to the NC border in SW VA that had more 14s, 14 1/2s, and 141s than you could believe. I recall them having .38-40s, .44-40s, .25, .30, .32, and .35 Rems in all the various configurations.


What town?


Collinsville. The shop closed up some years back, unfortunately. They had bought out a guy's collection, and he was big into the Remington pump rifles and Savage 99s.


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When I was a kid, every small northern New England town had a gun shop and their used gun racks were full of Remington pump guns, mostly 14s, 141s, and 760s. That all changed during and after the oil crisis in the early 1970's, as agents for wealthy oil men came through and bought any used firearm that was worth owning.

Among the few 14 1/2s that I recall seeing as a kid was Bearrr264's Grandfather's fully engraved 44-40. I was into guns at an early age and recall that the 14 1/2 was his deer rifle, his bear and moose rifle was an equally highly engraved 14 in 35 Rem, and his holster gun was a highly engrave Colt Bisley target in 44-40. I assumed that Dave would have inherited them after his Mother passed away, but I never saw them at his home in Missouri, and when Dave passed away his kids couldn't sell the assets of the estate fast enough.

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There was a simply awesome little gun shop in VT on Rte 100 that for YEARS had all the old-school pumps and lever guns a man could wish for.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
There used to be a small shop very close to the NC border in SW VA that had more 14s, 14 1/2s, and 141s than you could believe. I recall them having .38-40s, .44-40s, .25, .30, .32, and .35 Rems in all the various configurations.


There is a great local shop here that had a MINT 141 in .35. It was too nice to put a scope on or drill for a peep. My eyesight is too poor to use the buckhorn sighs it had on it.

I don't just have a gun around to sit in th safe, so I reluctantly passed on it.

The problem with that shop is they call me when they get one in they know I'll like.


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I saw some nice Remington 14's and 141's in Williams shop in Mich..


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Originally Posted by 4ager
There was a simply awesome little gun shop in VT on Rte 100 that for YEARS had all the old-school pumps and lever guns a man could wish for.


That would probably have been Bill Guilderdale's shop in Stockbridge, just west of the intersection of RT100 and RT107. Bill was truly one of a kind and the variety and quality of stuff that passed through his shop was amazing! I probably bought 20 Savage 1920s from him, as well as countless other rifles and handguns, between 1985 and 1990.

Bill's DIL wrote to me after Bill has passed away and told me that her Son, Bill's Grandson, was going to take over the business, but I have never had the urge to go there since Bill's death. I can imagine Bill in Heaven, sitting on his stool behind the counter with his signature green felt hat on, dispensing all sorts of wisdom to anyone who would listen.

There is still a small gun shop in that general area, Snowsville Store, in East Braintree, VT, between Randolph and Northfield on RT12. It isn't in the same league as Bill's shop, but it is still there.

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That's exactly the shop. Bill was a really great fellow and a true character.


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Originally Posted by 260Remguy

There is still a small gun shop in that general area, Snowsville Store, in East Braintree, VT, between Randolph and Northfield on RT12. It isn't in the same league as Bill's shop, but it is still there.


Good info. I go to Northfield every couple of years.

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