Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Will you be ready to leave as in secede

Yeah.

And then you're going to see warlords take control.

But that's not true secession. That's 3rd world chaos.




Dave

When it happens, it will most likely be Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. Lots of the shadow leadership is the same. All three voted for Lyin' Ted and have ties going back beyond the USA. If you have an expanded version of this, you have quite a few states that voted 60% or better against Obama. They would make a good new country. All are in the south or west. West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming, Idaho and Utah.

What you're saying may be true. The goal would be to avoid that and transition peacefully. The trouble is, a lot of the political shadow government on "our" side have the same goals as the other side, which is to enslave you and take your wealth.

Free your mind and your ass will follow. You can't lead a horse to water...asses are smarter though.

There would be nothing peaceful about it.

That's fantasy.




Dave

No, you'll see some state governments come out AND THAT will be secession. Most countries don't have the dual systems we do. There will be chaos in some places and more order in others. But by the time it happens, there will be few to none on any side of the issue who feel any allegiance to the federal government.

That is why the question is if you will be ready. Doesn't mean you are going to march on the capital tomorrow. It simply means that you will cross that Rubicon in your mind where you realize that it isn't getting better, will not get better, and cannot get better under this system. If you realize that, then you'll be ready for something new.

That is the first step. The American Revolution built up for thirty or more years before it happened. The Civil War for eighty. But once enough people get it in their heads that thing won't work and that something different must be tried eventually, then it is inevitable.

Pffffttt. I've been ignoring authority and laws since I was five.

But I'm the minority.

Good luck.




Dave

I finally got that ticket yesterday more than two years after my registration was out, so I'm there with you.

I too, understand the frustration. My question is what about all the "Fifth Columnist" already here??? Take Texas for an example.

There's a pollo asado stand or taqueria on every street corner from Brownville to Dalhart, El Paso to Beaumont. Some have been laundering money for the cartels for decades.

There is still a vibrant reconquesta attitude present in the southwest.

So it will be a two front affair???

So will it be Texas or Cohuila e Tejas???

Not being a smart-azz just asking what I think is a legitimate question.

A very complex situation.

I think there will be ethnic cleansing like there was in Yugoslavia eventually. In your heart of hearts, you know that when the forces of which we speak finally take over the federal power structure completely, it will be unbearable for us and for anyone who thinks as a traditional American. These groups do not have the traditional Anglo/Saxon view of law and order that restrains us today. Once they gain control, they will begin to ethnically cleanse us under the auspices of the government. It is coming as surely as night follows day. It isn't a question of politics, it is one of survival. So once that gets going in earnest, will people fight back?

I don't know all the answers. They are unknowable. But they are demonizing white people in the US like the Germans did the Jews. You can't feed people a steady diet of that for sixty years and then put on the brakes once the minorities take control. They will want payback.

Amen...

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Amen.

This!!!

Pit family against family. Brother against brother. Cousin against cousin.

Very bad situation to say the least.

Hillary elected, Hillary chooses Supreme Court nominees, Hillary court overturns Heller, Hillary laws ban all semi-auto rifles/shotguns/handguns..

Well, what comes next is rather obvious.

Empires ALWAYS become polyglot and they ALWAYS founder on the rocks of "diversity". We are really seeing that now with school districts having over forty languages and the like.

You forgot New Mexico.......

A lot of Americans think Arizona borders Texas, but I'm surprised an Okie does.....

That is food for thought.. Maybe form a union between the border states and Mexico and then change their government from within. The average Mexican citizen aligns more with me (in regards to work ethic, family values, God fearing, etc.) than the average East (and West) coast liberal does!

The cartels are a huge problem, but at least they are easy to identify and legal to shoot!

I'm gonna brush up on my Spanish..

The government that didn't want you to secede would pour money into Mexico/cartels and let them have their way from the south.

Which would result in two fronts.

Good luck.




Clark

I don't think secession will ever be necessary. I think the federal government will collapse first and it will be up to the states to fend for themselves. Like-minded states will naturally move towards unions among themselves. We've been in the decline stage of our republic now for about 80 years. With FDR, the populace discovered they could elect representatives who would give them money out of the federal treasury. They have continued to do so ever since, and that is something that no republic in history has ever survived. We won't be the first to do it, either. I don't think it's coming in the next decade, but at 45 years old I figure there's at least a 50/50 chance that I'll live to see it happen. I'm thankful I don't have children.

Yeah, you're probably right Clark.
Guess I'll just go to Montana....