24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
V
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
V
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
I am considering one of these for a handy little Mtn rifle but I am getting conflicting information on the rifle specs, some sorces say it has a 20" barrel and others say it has a 22" barrel, I called Remington and asked (for what that is worth) ad the rep I talked to said that his specs list it with a 20" barrel......Has anyone handled or bought a new Mod Seven stainless that knows for sure?......I bet they have a 22" barrel like the older models did...Thanks Hb

GB1

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,697
P
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
P
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,697
Buds has it listed 20 inch just checked


Tater
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,476
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,476
They Are 20"

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
V
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
V
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
Have you handled or seen one in person?......Hb

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,697
P
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
P
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,697
I haven't I have yet to see one in a store have you seen one over in your area?


Tater
IC B2

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
V
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
V
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
Nope, I was hoping Mahoneys might get one but none do far........Hb

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,476
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,476
Yes, I Bought One Back In Dec, When They Made a Run Of The 300WSM And 260's. They Was a NIB One Listed Over On Outdoor Trader For $500. The New One's Are $672. Bud's Did Have a Few In..

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,873
R
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,873
20" on a 300 WSM?! Can you say "muzzle blast"?


"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country."
Robert E. Lee
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,902
R
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
R
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,902
You will go deaf the first time you fire it w/o ear protection. Short barrel, light 300wsm will just kick the crap out of you and offer you nearly no benefit over an '06. My guess is you will shoot it half a dozen times and then be looking to sell it. A mag rifle needs atleast a 24" barrel in my opinion.

Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,571
D
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
D
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,571
You old nags need to do some actual research before you go spouting off at the Vaj....

How about a 17" barreled .300 WSM... 208s at 2750.... 180s at 2800... and 155s at 3100...

All you need to do is add a muffler...

[Linked Image]


You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
IC B3

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
V
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
V
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
Nice looking rig Dog!........Hb

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
V
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
V
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
Originally Posted by Mull
Yes, I Bought One Back In Dec, When They Made a Run Of The 300WSM And 260's. They Was a NIB One Listed Over On Outdoor Trader For $500. The New One's Are $672. Bud's Did Have a Few In..
thanks Mull, I think i might need one, if they had a 22" barrel i wouldn't have been interested.......Hb

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,817
B
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
B
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,817
Originally Posted by Dogshooter
You old nags need to do some actual research before you go spouting off at the Vaj....

How about a 17" barreled .300 WSM... 208s at 2750.... 180s at 2800... and 155s at 3100...

All you need to do is add a muffler...

[Linked Image]
............Yep! Some of the 'ol nags probably cannot (or do not want to) handle a compact 300 WSM.

Nice compact Dogshooter. I really like it! Have u tried a little RL17? If not, give it a go.

With the RL17 ONLY, 3200+ (155 VLD),,,3000+ (168 VLD),,,2900+ (180 Hornady),,,2800+ (190 VLD),,,2700+ (210 VLD).....300 WSM Ruger Frontier compact.....Have not tried the Superformance powder yet. Do I even need too?

As always, anytime a powerful round such as a 300 WSM is mated with a shorter barreled more compact rifle as inquired about by any OP, the detractors as usual come out of the woodwork.

"Well, you might as well buy a 30-06 with a 24" barrel."
"Well, you'll shoot the damn thing a few times and then sell it."
"Well, you'll go deeeeeeef."
"Well, it will recoil the crap out of ya."
"Well, way too much muzzle blast."
"Well, with shorter barrels you are gonna lose """lots""" of ballistic performance."


On and on and on and on....

First off!....The main theme or concept behind using a compact rifle in the field in the first place is to reduce the OAL. An easier carrying, better handling and a faster to the shoulder rifle can have its advantages given various situations.

Secondly! What one cannot handle where recoil and muzzle blast are concerned, may be perfectly fine and tolerable for another. Some of us out there have higher tolerance levels to such things.

Thirdly! If or when any detractor is willing to put up his money to buy any OP the rifle of his choice (or theirs?), then he should be more inclined to listen to the detractors advice. I'm sure the OP will be using HIS $ should he choose to buy a 300 WSM Model 7.

To the OP......If you really want a powerful and more compact rifle, the 300 WSM cartridge for that application is excellent. It is an outstanding shorter barreled cartridge. From the 20" tubed M7 you are considering, it will have more power than either a 24" tubed or even a 26" tubed 30-06 for that matter.

Lots of good quality ear protection on the market as well as recoil reduction methods, such as a Limbsaver slip on recoil pad that I use on my Frontier.

Aftermarket methods that usually escape the thoughts of the anti powerful cartridge/short barrel crowd.








28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger


Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,926
C
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
C
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,926
Originally Posted by bigsqueeze



"Well, you might as well buy a 30-06 with a 24" barrel."
"Well, you'll shoot the damn thing a few times and then sell it."
"Well, you'll go deeeeeeef."
"Well, it will recoil the crap out of ya."
"Well, way too much muzzle blast."
"Well, with shorter barrels you are gonna lose """lots""" of ballistic performance."


On and on and on and on....




Well, you'll end up faking your own death.



David

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,817
B
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
B
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,817
Nope Canastass....That was done for me.....But I came back.....BOOO.


28 Nosler,,,,300WSM,,,,338-378 Wby,,,,375 Ruger


Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
V
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
V
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
Yeah, i always wear good hearing protection at the shooting range, as far as recoil goes im not in the least concerned......how much could a .300 WSM really recoil?.... I have owned several .300 WSM rifles in lighter weight sporters including a Sako Finnlight and Browning X-Bolt stainless stalker and found them to be most pleasant to shoot but I have never been recoil sensitive, I have always prefered lightweight bolt action rifles chambered in Magnum cartridges, with My hunting style (long steep hikes in remote country) I appreciate a lightweight handy rifles.....one of My favorite hunting rigs is My Tikka T3 Superlite .300 Win, I find it laughable that some shooters have such low tolerances for recoil, its something I never understood........(unless a shooter has some kind of ailment).........Hb

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 944
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 944
I get the concept of compact rifles.

I like the WSM in the Montana and the M70. I think the Montana is still the best overall package for the money. You can bob the barrel to your liking.

I have a couple, but I'm not a big Remy fan...if you are let us know how it turns out.


"Supernatural divinities are the primitive's answer to why the sun goes down at night..."
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
V
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
V
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,756
The Montana is light and handy for sure but I'm Not a big Kimber fan, I tried 2, both were .308 Win's ....one shot great and the other (a Montana) was the least accurate factory rifle i have ever owned and on top of that it had feeding issues....no more Kimber roulette for me......A Winchester 70 EW might tempt me if not for the clubby stock....plus its not really what i consider to be a lightweight rifle .........Hb


Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

581 members (257man, 10gaugeman, 1_deuce, 222Sako, 222ND, 10Glocks, 68 invisible), 2,646 guests, and 1,329 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,190,671
Posts18,456,023
Members73,909
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.106s Queries: 14 (0.005s) Memory: 0.8741 MB (Peak: 1.0004 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-19 21:02:47 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS