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Originally Posted by 7mmMato
These baby bullet dont kill nothing..... Gotta have a .338 or bigger if you want to be a true killer.........


That's right Charles, then AI the case and push 275 Swifts to 2850 fps and keep all shots under 50'. laugh


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One reason to choose 60 grainers is if the state you're hunting in requires it.

Wyoming for instance requires 22 CF bullets to be at least 60 grains for deer/antelope. That's why I got me some 62 TSXs to throw at them this fall.



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Originally Posted by ingwe
With my experience, and Scenarshooters with the 55 grain Hornadys..I wouldn't bother with the 60s...especially in a regular .223


If in plain vanilla 223 a 55 Gameking will spit right through about any deer around. AI the 223 or run the Gameking in 220 or 22-250 and stay behind the shoulders in the airbags and shoot through them as well. Normally DRT!!

55 Gamekings are what we shot after Missouri got off of the minimum of 70 grain pills 25 years ago.

Then enter the 60 Partition, having to stay out of the shoulders was no longer an issue. Aim for the shoulder and let the Partition do its thing. DRT most times as well.

Going to try either 63 Sierra SMP or 60 grain Hornady this year.

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How about 60 npt out of rar compact? Load advise appreciated!


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I've plumb gave up on the 62 Swift Scirocco. It should be perfect for my #1, but 1 3/8" is the best it will do for 5 shots. That from a rifle that bugholes 77gr Bergers.


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Good to know. I wont spend any money on them...


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Anybody tried the 65 gr Sierra Gameking bullets, my Tikka is shooting them into sub .5" groups at around 2860 FPS.


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I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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Check out the other thread on this forum about .22 cal deer bullets. I know a few guys here who like them.


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Originally Posted by pullit
Anybody tried the 65 gr Sierra Gameking bullets, my Tikka is shooting them into sub .5" groups at around 2860 FPS.


Launched from a AR15, into a small Texas buck. It broke the onside humerus, and stopped in the offside hide.

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It worked, but I don't think I'd try to break a shoulder with one of them.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Good to know. I wont spend any money on them...


I picked up some Berger 70gr VLD's. They are about .97" long, which is about .060" shorter than the 77's which shoot well in the #1, so they should be fine in it. I'll probably see what shoots better, them or 55gr TTSX


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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
I've plumb gave up on the 62 Swift Scirocco. It should be perfect for my #1, but 1 3/8" is the best it will do for 5 shots. That from a rifle that bugholes 77gr Bergers.

You may improve those groups if you tweak the COAL.

Try jumping them more.

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Worth a try. They definitely don't work close to the lands, or on them.


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Seemed to me the bigger the jump, the tighter the group.

Before trying that, I was about done with them, too.

If you can get them to shoot, they do have good terminal performance.

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No critters to show, interesting bullet.

Cutting Edge MTH (Match ,Tactical, Hunting)

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8 twist .22-250, CM Shilen/Mohawk.

55 gr. MTH

Three shot .35" at a hundred,

37.5 gr. Big Game, 3,499 fps av. ES 25, SD 13.

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My Remington 700 LTR 223 1-9 twist shoots the 62 grain Swift Scirocco very well. 23 grains of Benchmark, WSR primers , coal just off the lands. I plan on trying it on some Hogs soon.

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Originally Posted by pullit
Anybody tried the 65 gr Sierra Gameking bullets, my Tikka is shooting them into sub .5" groups at around 2860 FPS.


Haven't killed any big game with them, but that's my main bullet in the AR; very accurate and easy to push fast, and cheap enough to load in bulk.

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My Mini 14 custom really likes those 65 gr. SGK's.

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The 55g hornady is the toughest of all the current available 55g bullets, and they are very, very accurate.

As you go up in weight and toughness

60g Hornady sp
63g Sierra
65g Sierra
64g Winchester is the toughest

If you can find any, the old pMC 64 or 64g are tough as hell.


60g Nosler partition shoots 1 1/2" in a 14 twist, and they do better in a 9 or 12 twist. They really make a mess out of a deer out of a 22/250 with a 14 twist and max load of IMR 4350, win primer. These will often surprise you in how accurate they are out of a 12 twist or tighter.

Nosler came up with the 64g Bonded for law enforcement, but Texas shooters have been killing heck out of hogs with them...I have never shot them.

I shot two does with an AR with 62g barnes at 270 yards. They both ran, but died within 75 yards, no blood trail at all.

I shot does and antelope with a 788 with a 55g winchester(soft bullet) with a load of 26.5g of win 748. My last anteope buck was 470 yards, he just flopped on the spot. The does just dropped in their tracks also with lung shots, 75-100 yd shots.

A 22/250 AI with a 12 twist shooting the 64g Win at 3700 is all the deer rifle a guy would ever need. I shoot the 60g Hornady Sp at 3700 with 37g of Win 760 and a fed 210 primer, Rem brass. This bullet is not as tough as the 64g win, but gets the job done in spades.

I shot a 120lb buck for meat last year with a 60g partition at 3700, threw away the entire front half of the deer, but he DID NOT RUN!!!

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The Nosler 64 gr. bonded solid base (BSB) reportedly has great terminal performance. I've not been able to get them to shoot tight groups. Only accurate bullets interest me, regardless how they perform on game.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
The Nosler 64 gr. bonded solid base (BSB) reportedly has great terminal performance. I've not been able to get them to shoot tight groups. Only accurate bullets interest me, regardless how they perform on game.

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I've got em going 2"s in my mid-length 556 house gun with a Eotech NVC 556 sight at 100 yards DF, good enough for that I guess.

Can't see chit for detail with that sight at 100, LOL.


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