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I used to hunt deer with my tree hugging in laws.
After my wife died I bought 40 acres to hunt on so I would never have to listen to them Monday Morning Quarterback every single shot.
That is why I like the 35 Whelen the blood trail is short and wide like a girl in a Wisconsin beer joint.
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I like a neck/ shoulder shot for bang flops. Last ten or so shot in this manner have not made it over 5 yds. Most just tipped over in place. There is a bit more meat damage though as opposed to the heart lung shot.

Have had quite a few deer over the years run over 100 yds with the typical lung/heart shots. Some ended up over steep drops and swamps . Not saying neck shots are better just my experience.

Some deer, does and bucks, will run a ways no matter how well they're hit.

Good illustration

I tend to shoot a bit higher and a bit more forward than the illustration

I prefer longer shots actually especially when they are moving.

Impressive....

while plenty of "hole in one"have been made, I'm not aware of a called one.
Yes, bang flops happen and have happened with just about every angle and shot known to man...but if your starting with the intention of putting an animal atop it's own feed your only going to be highly successful with CNS shots.

Trolling along......

A few years back I shot a 100-110 lb fawn an inch up or less. At 50 yards, 1700 FPS, 250 grain Barnes T-EZ, dead square broadside, identical damage to both scapula, about an inch and a half just gone. It sounded like a turd hitting pavement from 30 stories up when those bones went. Not only didn't it go down at the shot, it managed some over 60 yards. 3/4s of the heart was gone. only a fist size chunk of one lung remained. Golf ball size hole all the way through. I could have run a shovel handle through and carried it out to the road.

When the bullet hit the deer just swayed back a little, then turned and ran straight away and in the 30 or so yards I could watch it it ran well enough I wasn't certain I hit it where I did. The chest was so thoroughly demolished it only bled for about three jumps, then nothing til where it went down. I have no idea how it stayed upright, much less ran. The front legs were floppy.

I have never seen a head shot do anything but drop. I more frequently shoot then just below the skull, clipping the brain stem. Never saw one of them do anything but drop.3 years ago I high shouldered 4 with the ML because I wanted no runners. Every one of them dropped where they stood.

6Th post in 1.5 months doesn't qualify as a troll.

As for what I posted, My rifles are zeroed for 200-300 yards usually not 50. Hitting a running deer at 100 yards is easier then 50 by far, and at 200 yards even easier.

I don't usually hunt past the normal range for most calibers I hunt with, so if you are thinking I'm saying I hit deer at 600 running I'm not. This isn't the long range hunting sub forum. Over 150 yards is longER range for most hunters.

I would pay to see that.

I'm not an outfitter get your own dang deer hunting spot lol

Motionless is always easier than moving, but with your reasoning, a standing Deer at 50 would be harder than a standing one at 200.

Classic.

Ya'll are sounding like my late Grandpa now. Standing and motion less are two different states when deer hunting.

I've only been hunting around 25 years and a lot of people here have have been hunting longer and prolly notice this. I'd rather flick off my safety (even quiet as I can) when they are at 200 than 50 cause some of them can hear that, let alone I'd be shooting high with most of the cals I hunt with.

Running Perspective: Ask a world champ at skeet shooting what range they want their clays to fly... 5, 10, or 20 yards. Which one will they pick every time? And it won't be just because of the pattern either...

+1 to Scotts post...

Make that a double!

I like to shoot them in the shoulders. I don't like looking for wounded deer. I hunt close to fence. If he goes over the fence, he is lost.

Make that "squared"!!!