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Ya' mean like agreeing with you...?

For *you* to question anyone else's 'credibility' is pretty funny.

That's very informative RJY, I may read those scriptures some evening, only thing here is The King James version though.

Most prophecy has been fulfilled. The book of revelation has lots of stuff in it that people claim to understand, they even have charts graphs and huge boards of stuff that they preach as the true meaning. I'm sorry, but if you think you got it all figured out you don't know a dang thing, if you claim to only know Christ and him crucified, then you probably have exactly what you need to know figured out. I don't even read revelation cause I don't care how it all comes to pass. I just keep on keeping on and do my best to live like a good person and repent for when I fumble the ball. I do a lot of that. I'm a turd.

Revelation came very close to not making it into NT canon and was not part of the NT teaching for a long time. Even now most really can't decipher the majority of its meaning with any certainty.

I agree. One does not have to "clean up his act" to approach God. I offered some thoughts one time for a guy who said he did not want to be a Jesus follower because he did not want to stop drinking. I said he should pursue the Lord and continue to drink all he wanted to. First things first. God can deal with hearts and mold the clay.

My credibility is not the one being asked about. When someone stoops to ad hominin attack they show they have no argument.

Of course I did. If you can't understand my answer, seek help.

Nobody here asks about 'your' credibility anymore.

antlers,



You are either obfuscating or are not able to keep up with the conversation. I think it's the former.

You are under the mistaken impression that I care what you think on this matter.

I posted "I think the former," for my benefit.

It's clear from your posts here that everything you say and do is for *your* benefit.

Jesus as a man did not know the Times and Seasons until His Ascension and Glorification.
Mark13:32 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

He, Jesus, received them from His Father.
Rev 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave him to show his servants-things which must shortly take place."

Jesus gave them to John, and also to Paul, concerning the Times and Seasons to the End of the the Age.
1 Thess 5:1-2 "But concerning the times and the seasons brethren you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves KNOW perfectly that "the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night."

Did you get that? "IT IS GOD'S WILL FOR HIS SERVANTS TO KNOW!"

Ringman,

It seems to me that he is very sensitive and cannot stand it when someone challenges what he says. Note that he posted this, a broad blanket statement with absolutely no validity or support for it:

"People don't resist Christianity because of Jesus...people resist Christianity because of Christians."

I replied and simply said that that this was not my experience and he posted this:

"To say that some 'Christians' don't often come across as being unkind, intolerant, harsh, judgmental, and self-righteous when they claim they are just trying to convey the message of Jesus is more than a little bit disingenuous. People aren't resisting the message of Jesus...they *are* resisting the messengers that come across just as I described above."

Of course, note that I did not say what he implied at all I never said that some Christians don't often come across as.... yada yada........ He added and twisted what I said. I was not disingenuous, he was. He intentionally misconstrued and then posted a poorly thought out "rebuttal."

He also bobs and weaves a bit. Note that he never answered the following question:

"Well, I agree with you that "some" are like that. But let me ask if, in the church you attend, are "most" like that or "some?"

I guess you could say that yes, he was "obfuscating" with his non-answer that "any" was too much. He sure evaded answering the question didn't he?



Further, there was post by George and this guy picks out an obvious error about carbon dating and proceeds to ding on the guy for it. He ignored the main point of the post and got stuck on this. Why? It seems to be "disingenuous" to me. Yep, he was finding fault with a minor point and ignoring or perhaps not comprehending the main point of the post. Seems to me he WAS nitpicking.

He exhibits troll like behaviors.


TF





btw, in general, I agree with George in that while I do not know the age of the earth, I suspect it is younger than most believe. Honest science and data is what it is but junk science and politically correct conclusions not supported by the data is simply a new way to pass off lies to those with itching ears. Look no further than the lies from the "scientists' on manmade global warming and climate change.

lol

Hardly.

Your full response is a classic passive-aggressive response. Denigrating someone through a post to someone else...with the 'primary' intention of having the object of your consternation read it. It's typical behavior of what a lot of people expect from, and have experienced from, self-professed 'Christians' such as yourself. A pure gold example of why many people who don't resist the message of Jesus, definitely *do* resist some of those people who claim to be His followers.

The world would be a better place if a bunch of Christians took lessons from Gunner........

George

Antlers,
First, my response was to Gus in relation to a question he asked about "early revelation" not to you. It was a short response to hm to explain how there was; how it might have happened. My comments were not directed to you nor did I ask your opinion. Notice I couched my opinion as, "I lean to" meaning, I am not positive this is correct in the context of correctly understanding the science or God's word as there is much divided opinion on the subject.

I am not asking you to agree with me nor care if you do or dont't; believe what you want. Instead of adding to the discussion in a cordial way, whether pro or CON, you pick on a point that is totally peripheral to my main point and again interrupt a thread and derail it with your little, inner Napoleonic edicts.

If you had something to add about prophecy and/or early revelation why not share it with us in a contributing way instead? I suspect because you are completely unable to add OR LEAD with anything of substance. Most reasonable folks have a sense of what they don't know; some have no idea of what they don't know but but forge ahead anyway seeking attention and trying to bolster their little egos.

The author of Proverbs 17:28, paraphrased by Abraham Lincoln and Mark Twain, wrote something you should seriously consider.

And again.

Comin' from you, who claimed that carbon-14 dating gives us "billions of earth years", that's pretty funny.