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I tried a bag liner one time and, since I'm a lively side sleeper, it was an exercise in entanglement. I've been wondering how it would work with a quilt. In theory, I wouldn't get nearly as wrapped up. A 20F quilt with a liner should get me through any hunting season I'm likely to be out in.
Read the literature. I can't remember the brand but a bag I looked at a few years ago had an interesting note about temperature rating. Most of us think of a 20F bag as being more or less comfortable at 20F. This one said that they rated it as one that would keep you alive at 20F. Not comfortable, just alive. It was probably a 40F bag.
This would be my experience, my North Face 0F rated bag was not comfortable in single digit temps. Not at all. You folks who are trying the quilt option, I'll sure be looking for your posts on how they work out. I, too, am not much for laying out flat and sleeping in a tight bag. For truck camping I'm actually thinking I'm going to sheepskin rugs and wool blankets. Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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For truck camping I'm actually thinking I'm going to sheepskin rugs and wool blankets.
You'll get a lot of extra body heat if you leave the sheep attached.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
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For truck camping I'm actually thinking I'm going to sheepskin rugs and wool blankets.
You'll get a lot of extra body heat if you leave the sheep attached. RC, How would you know, I thought you ID folks left that kind of stuff up to the WY and MT fellas  Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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For truck camping I'm actually thinking I'm going to sheepskin rugs and wool blankets.
You'll get a lot of extra body heat if you leave the sheep attached. RC, How would you know, I thought you ID folks left that kind of stuff up to the WY and MT fellas Geno I had an army mummy bag with the chickens still attached to the feathers.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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For truck camping I'm actually thinking I'm going to sheepskin rugs and wool blankets.
You'll get a lot of extra body heat if you leave the sheep attached. RC, How would you know, I thought you ID folks left that kind of stuff up to the WY and MT fellas Geno I had an army mummy bag with the chickens still attached to the feathers. I know that one too. My first bag with Boy Scouts was a cotton, flannel one. It was so heavy I think the dirt from the roots of the cotton plants got incorporated into the bag! Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I'm in love with my EE quilts. I've been good down to the stated temps and sleep as well or better then my bed at home.
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BCJR,
I was in a small climbing/outdoor shop in Wasilla in 2002 or 2003 IIRC. They were going out of business and had crazy good sales going on.
They had a WM -40 bag on sale from $830 to $300. I had it in my hand, but I had just bought a Wiggys bag and really couldn't afford it. So I passed, but my friend who was with me got it just because of the price.
This friend spent five years in Point Hope, using that bag on his late season trips. Since then he teaches Outdoor Rec classes in SE. He has put in a HUGE number of days in that bag and it is holding up great. Since then he has also bought two more WM bags for summer camping.
I really should have bought that bag!
The never-ending flight
Of future days.
Paradise Lost. Book ii. Line 221
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I'm in love with my EE quilts. I've been good down to the stated temps and sleep as well or better then my bed at home. Yep. Just got back from chasing sheep for a week, and 5 of the 7 days had us socked in the shelter. That Downtek down sure works better than regular down. My bivy and quilt got pretty soaked at the head and foot areas, and the quilt still lofted and insulated like a champ. I was plenty warm and had lots of freedom to move around and vent when I got too hot. Always used mummy bags for backpacking, and after this first trip with the EE quilt I'm sold on 'em, assuming it holds up to use.
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Been looking at the western mountaineering bags.... I have used a Western Mountaineering Antelope for five years. I'm not as slim as I used to be and it's a little tight. I think I've about grown into the Sequoia, which is a little roomier. KC
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