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Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... 41magfan #11392378 08/23/16
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SAKO75 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,742 C.S.A.	Originally Posted by 41magfan It's worth noting that 99% of the "stopping failures" I witnessed were due to bullet placement and had absolutely nothing to do with caliber or bullet type. exactly why I feel "ok" about carrying a Glock 42 "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered." ― George Orwell, 1984

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Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... SAKO75 #11392402 08/23/16
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,556 USA T The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage
The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,556 USA	Originally Posted by SAKO75 Originally Posted by 41magfan It's worth noting that 99% of the "stopping failures" I witnessed were due to bullet placement and had absolutely nothing to do with caliber or bullet type. exactly why I feel "ok" about carrying a Glock 42 I wouldn't feel poorly armed with one. I'd likely carry a spare mag, though.

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... 2muchgun #11392583 08/23/16
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OP 2muchgun Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 15,565 Michigun	My wife forces me to watch plenty of Joe Kenda and the like. My bud just brought over some Hornady critical defense 90 grainers. Wish I had more than one magazine for this FEG R61. It is kinda growing on me and he really likes it..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... SAKO75 #11392594 08/23/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	Originally Posted by SAKO75 Awesome gun What's the dark earth colored Glock A 42 George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... 2muchgun #11392623 08/23/16
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Snake River Marksman Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,082 Etna, Wyoming	FleaBay has several along with some leather for it. Stupidity is expensive If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

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Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... 2muchgun #11392645 08/23/16
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R_H_Clark Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 10,972 NW Alabama	A 380 is nearly too much gun. I've seen James Bond drop the bad guys from 100 yards with one shot from the 32 acp Walther. Honestly I carry a 380 Kahr P-380 a bunch. It's accurate enough for head shots at fighting distance. if I ever shoot anyone with it,the first shot will be between the eyes.

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... 2muchgun #11392706 08/23/16
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Snake River Marksman Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,082 Etna, Wyoming	I just know for myself that if someone pulls a 380 on me, I'm not going to just stand there and laugh at them. I'll run away or do whatever I'm told. Stupidity is expensive If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... Snake River Marksman #11392733 08/23/16
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R_H_Clark Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 10,972 NW Alabama	Originally Posted by Snake River Marksman I just know for myself that if someone pulls a 380 on me, I'm not going to just stand there and laugh at them. I'll run away or do whatever I'm told. X2 Now days you can't even kill a deer with less than a 300 win mag. Years ago both the 32acp and the 9X18 Mak. served police forces for quite a while. There's no doubt that the 9mm Luger or 45acp are more powerful rounds and I would rather have one if confronting an AK armed terrorist,but in such a situation I would rather have an M16 than any pistol. You just have to decide what you can carry always and use it to your best advantage. I still believe the best weapon is the one between our ears.

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... R_H_Clark #11392785 08/23/16
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SAKO75 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,742 C.S.A.	Originally Posted by R_H_Clark I still believe the best weapon is the one between our ears. probably the best advice I've read "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered." ― George Orwell, 1984

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... 2muchgun #11392862 08/23/16
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Snake River Marksman Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,082 Etna, Wyoming	If I'm armed with a handgun, and confronted with an AK wielding terrorist, I'm going to attempt to sneak up behind him/her and blow their head off with whatever I've got and take their weapon. Either that or cower in a corner and chit myself. One or the other...... Stupidity is expensive If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

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Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... 2muchgun #11392882 08/23/16
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LouisB Campfire Tracker L Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,496 TN	The difference I have found is the 380 goes with me when everything else never did. Bought a SS Bulldog 44 SPL as a carry piece but since it fires occasionally and the hammer block safety broke off , fell into the action and jammed the gun, I am not trusting it. Sent back to Charter to repair with a letter explaining the jammed action and occasional firing and it came back with new safety bar and still fires occasionally. It doe make the premise that one should be "surprised" when the gun goes off a reality. My Taurus 715 44Spl fires every time, but is too heavy. My Taurus TCP and PT709 Slim fire EVERYTIME I pull the trigger and have had no issues once I learned to load for a semi auto when I first got the TCP. I'd rather have a 380 in my hand than a 357, 44 or 45 that I leave at home. One thing I always wonder about purse carry is what is a major target of purse snatchers? Some spelling errors can be corrected by a vowel movement. ~ MOLON LABE ~

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... 2muchgun #11393423 08/23/16
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Rock Chuck Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 69,309 Filer, ID	I know of darn few CC guns that I'd put up against any rifle. Encountering a terrorist with an AK or AR is highly unlikely although there's no doubt that it COULD happen. By far the most likely need for a gun is a mugger. Shoving a 380 in his face or a bullet in his gut will usually back him off and let you make a getaway. It's not a game of firepower. It's one of escape. You just need to make him think he's going to die if he doesn't back off. “In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... Rock Chuck #11393867 08/23/16
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R_H_Clark Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 10,972 NW Alabama	Originally Posted by Rock Chuck I know of darn few CC guns that I'd put up against any rifle. Encountering a terrorist with an AK or AR is highly unlikely although there's no doubt that it COULD happen. By far the most likely need for a gun is a mugger. Shoving a 380 in his face or a bullet in his gut will usually back him off and let you make a getaway. It's not a game of firepower. It's one of escape. You just need to make him think he's going to die if he doesn't back off. That's only in the real world. The internet commando will always need a Glock 17 and at least 3 extra mags.

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... R_H_Clark #11393911 08/23/16
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SAKO75 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,742 C.S.A.	Originally Posted by R_H_Clark Originally Posted by Rock Chuck I know of darn few CC guns that I'd put up against any rifle. Encountering a terrorist with an AK or AR is highly unlikely although there's no doubt that it COULD happen. By far the most likely need for a gun is a mugger. Shoving a 380 in his face or a bullet in his gut will usually back him off and let you make a getaway. It's not a game of firepower. It's one of escape. You just need to make him think he's going to die if he doesn't back off. That's only in the real world. The internet commando will always need a Glock 17 and at least 3 extra mags. well i dont need 3 mags I have one of the 33 round magazines! "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered." ― George Orwell, 1984

Re: Talk to me about the 380 ACP...... SAKO75 #11394506 08/24/16
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R_H_Clark Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 10,972 NW Alabama	Originally Posted by SAKO75 Originally Posted by R_H_Clark Originally Posted by Rock Chuck I know of darn few CC guns that I'd put up against any rifle. Encountering a terrorist with an AK or AR is highly unlikely although there's no doubt that it COULD happen. By far the most likely need for a gun is a mugger. Shoving a 380 in his face or a bullet in his gut will usually back him off and let you make a getaway. It's not a game of firepower. It's one of escape. You just need to make him think he's going to die if he doesn't back off. That's only in the real world. The internet commando will always need a Glock 17 and at least 3 extra mags. well i dont need 3 mags I have one of the 33 round magazines! I'll just say,I hope you can keep the terrorist with the AK busy while I run.

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