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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-mulls-rule-require-speed-limiting-devices-trucks-145040555.html
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The U.S. Transportation Department on Friday issued a proposed rule that would require trucks and buses to be equipped with devices that would limit their speed, a move it said could save both lives and fuel.

The agency said it will weigh setting speed limits at 60, 65 or 68 miles per hour for heavy commercial vehicles, but will consider other speeds based on comments from the public. Speed limits on interstate highways vary across the United States, with some states allowing vehicles to drive as fast as 85 miles (137 km) per hour, though many states have lower maximum speeds for trucks.

"There are significant safety benefits to this proposed rulemaking," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement. "In addition to saving lives, the projected fuel and emissions savings make this proposal a win for safety, energy conservation, and our environment."

Under the long-delayed proposal, all new U.S. trucks and buses weighing more than 26,000 pounds (11,793 kg) would need to be equipped with a speed-limiting device.

The department said the maximum allowable speed would be decided after the agency receives public input. Publication of the proposal kicks off a 60-day comment period.

It said both vehicle manufacturers and the companies that purchase and operate the vehicles would be subject to the rule.

Representatives of truck makers and large truck fleets contacted Friday did not comment or said they were still studying the proposal.



It's for the environment...


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More federal meddling.


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Unfortunately most of the big carriers have cut their fleets back to the low 60's (mph) 5+ years ago. Saves fuel, supposedly. Pisses off the public when you're in the way. Not to mention most of the drivers of said trucks.

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Just another step into taking away freedom. You watch, the self driving cars will transition into, cars that can only be self driven. And in 50 years time (probably sooner), you won't be allowed to drive a car anymore.

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Originally Posted by Calhoun
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The U.S. Transportation Department on Friday issued a proposed rule that would require trucks and buses to be equipped with devices that would limit their speed, a move it said could save both lives and fuel.

The agency said it will weigh setting speed limits at 60, 65 or 68 miles per hour for heavy commercial vehicles, but will consider other speeds based on comments from the public. Speed limits on interstate highways vary across the United States, with some states allowing vehicles to drive as fast as 85 miles (137 km) per hour, though many states have lower maximum speeds for trucks.

"There are significant safety benefits to this proposed rulemaking," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement. "In addition to saving lives, the projected fuel and emissions savings make this proposal a win for safety, energy conservation, and our environment."

Under the long-delayed proposal, all new U.S. trucks and buses weighing more than 26,000 pounds (11,793 kg) would need to be equipped with a speed-limiting device.

The department said the maximum allowable speed would be decided after the agency receives public input. Publication of the proposal kicks off a 60-day comment period.

It said both vehicle manufacturers and the companies that purchase and operate the vehicles would be subject to the rule.

Representatives of truck makers and large truck fleets contacted Friday did not comment or said they were still studying the proposal.



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Interstate commuters might believe survival.

I get sick of trucks throwing on their turn signal and cutting people off so they can do another half a mph faster than the truck they'll take the next two miles to pass. If they ever offer Hellfire missiles as an option, I'm in. grin


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Unfortunately most of the big carriers have cut their fleets back to the low 60's (mph) 5+ years ago. Saves fuel, supposedly. Pisses off the public when you're in the way. Not to mention most of the drivers of said trucks.



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The guys proposing these rules have obviously never driven across the country. They probably think an hours drive is a long one. Let them get bottled up behind a couple of trucks playing hopscotch on the interstate and see how frustrating it is. Truckers seem to have self regulated as it is. It's pretty rare when I'm doing 80 or 85 on the interstate and a truck passes me. Heck, with the posted limits at 80 and 85 I don't even go 5 over anymore.


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bastad trucks should never be allowed to get in the passing lane ! it is made to pass not drive for 30 miles with 50+ cars backed up behind!

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I imagine it won't be long before most trucks are unmanned.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
I imagine it won't be long before most trucks are unmanned.

Poor truck drivers. Hope the surgery goes well.


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Cars would not be far behind...pun intended...
They would make more revenue if they would just record your speed and send your tickets to your car computer...


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Originally Posted by GunGeek
Just another step into taking away freedom. You watch, the self driving cars will transition into, cars that can only be self driven. And in 50 years time (probably sooner), you won't be allowed to drive a car anymore.


Saw a story on TV about Ford saying they expect to bring full (level 5) autonomous driving to the market in 5 years. The technology is advancing rapidly now that lots of high tech, high buck companies are behind it. When perfected it's expected to be much safer than human drivers, so at some point you'll have to pay a high premium (insurance and maybe advanced driver's training) to be allowed to have a vehicular that can be manually driven. Over the road trucks won't need drivers, but may carry a mechanic on some routes to chain-up, clean sensor lenses, etc.

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Originally Posted by RickyD
Interstate commuters might believe survival.

I get sick of trucks throwing on their turn signal and cutting people off so they can do another half a mph faster than the truck they'll take the next two miles to pass. If they ever offer Hellfire missiles as an option, I'm in. grin


I drove heavy haul, 105,500 GVW. I don't remember passing any truck on a hill. wink


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Originally Posted by RickyD

I get sick of trucks throwing on their turn signal and cutting people off so they can do another half a mph faster than the truck they'll take the next two miles to pass. If they ever offer Hellfire missiles as an option, I'm in. grin


You understand, of course, that speed limiting devices are exactly why the situation you are sick of exists.

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Originally Posted by Calhoun
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The U.S. Transportation Department on Friday issued a proposed rule that would require trucks and buses to be equipped with devices that would limit their speed, a move it said could save both lives and fuel.

The agency said it will weigh setting speed limits at 60, 65 or 68 miles per hour for heavy commercial vehicles, but will consider other speeds based on comments from the public. Speed limits on interstate highways vary across the United States, with some states allowing vehicles to drive as fast as 85 miles (137 km) per hour, though many states have lower maximum speeds for trucks.

"There are significant safety benefits to this proposed rulemaking," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement. "In addition to saving lives, the projected fuel and emissions savings make this proposal a win for safety, energy conservation, and our environment."

Under the long-delayed proposal, all new U.S. trucks and buses weighing more than 26,000 pounds (11,793 kg) would need to be equipped with a speed-limiting device.

The department said the maximum allowable speed would be decided after the agency receives public input. Publication of the proposal kicks off a 60-day comment period.

It said both vehicle manufacturers and the companies that purchase and operate the vehicles would be subject to the rule.

Representatives of truck makers and large truck fleets contacted Friday did not comment or said they were still studying the proposal.



It's for the environment...


I was driving at 75 mph on I-25 (Colorado) yesterday {speed limit = 75] and was closely followed by a semi that wanted to go faster. I just tapped my brakes (to activate brake lights) and he backed off, pulled around and cut me off. so much for courteousness and obeying the law.

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They are already on all the trucks if they have a computer controlled engine. All I have to do is hook up my laptop to the truck and open options up and set the max speed to what ever the owner wants the top speed to be. Takes me less than 10 minutes.

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...I just tapped my brakes (to activate brake lights) and he backed off, pulled around and cut me off. so much for courteousness and obeying the law.


Brake checking is illegal and discourteous.


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Just keep them the fug out of the passing lane.


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My neighbor is a mechanic for a Sysco fleet and they took their limiters off.

Near the warehouse, and the primary entrance to I95 towards DC, is a left entrance onto the highway. With governors at 55 they were trying to merge into 80+ mile an hour traffic at all hours. Apparently the state police came by and discussed and then they discussed with the drivers union and then Sysco had a chat with their insurance company and the governors are gone.


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Originally Posted by pal
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...I just tapped my brakes (to activate brake lights) and he backed off, pulled around and cut me off. so much for courteousness and obeying the law.


Brake checking is illegal and discourteous.


I flip my lights on and off to get that effect.


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Setting differential speeds is a major cause of accidents. Nothing like a little 4 wheeler slamming into the back of a truck they "didn't see".

My trucks are actually governed at 66 on the cruise. They also get 5 minutes on the pedal up to 80 mph, and unlimited time up to 69. If they need the speed to merge, pass, whatever, they can do it. Lots of neat options inside the ECM of modern engines.

I don't need a driver to decide to do 80 MPH across the desert in 100 degree heat and a full load, and see how many road gators he can create.....



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My Dad is of the board of directors of one of the larger freight companies and he is expecting them to go to driverless trucks at some point. They are really struggling to find drivers, and the average age of their drivers continue to climb, with no relief on sight.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Just keep them the fug out of the passing lane.
Agreed, Diesel dummies trying to control the speed of traffic by getting side by side and driving 5 miles below the speed limit for miles on end, fug them and their mothers , wives and daughters

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Originally Posted by gitem_12

The big carriers are the entire problem with the trucking industry today


Clearly you aren't familiar with the small gypo outfits that run Chip Trucks with minimum wage drivers around these parts..... eek

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Originally Posted by blanket
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Just keep them the fug out of the passing lane.
Agreed, Diesel dummies trying to control the speed of traffic by getting side by side and driving 5 miles below the speed limit for miles on end, fug them and their mothers , wives and daughters


What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


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not the limit you dipshit but below as some do side by side

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Just keep them the fug out of the passing lane.
Agreed, Diesel dummies trying to control the speed of traffic by getting side by side and driving 5 miles below the speed limit for miles on end, fug them and their mothers , wives and daughters


We call that a "slug race"....fortunately ID has a law against holding up five or more vehicles and the ISP's pretty good about enforcing it....

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There are professional driver on the road today that do a great job. The work hard, they work long hours, and they do it by the books. I did it for around six and a half years with no moving violations and no accidents.

Many a time I was doing the speed limit on cruse only to have a car pass me, cut back so close I could not see the tail lights from a slant hood Freightliner, and put on their brakes hard. The often slowed down to five or ten miles below the speed limit. I have had to break so hard I shifted 7,000 pound plus roles of paper to the front of the trailer and had to turn around and go back to the mill to be reloaded to be legal risking my ass to keep from killing some idiot. Just a hint, if you see a truck with 26 to 28 tires on the ground it might just be heavy and even a 80,000 pound rig cannot stop on a dime.

That said I will be the first to admit there are CDL drivers on the road who should not be allowed to ride a rocking horse.

To expect a truck to maintain 80 mph speeds in mountain country means you don't have the IQ to pas the test to be a bowling ball.


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Originally Posted by blanket
not the limit you dipshit but below as some do side by side


Apparently you dads condom was bigger than your personality!


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Originally Posted by MissouriEd
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Just keep them the fug out of the passing lane.
Agreed, Diesel dummies trying to control the speed of traffic by getting side by side and driving 5 miles below the speed limit for miles on end, fug them and their mothers , wives and daughters


What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?
You must be one of those guys that get side by side and drop 10 miles an hour up every hill just because you can

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Originally Posted by MissouriEd
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not the limit you dipshit but below as some do side by side


Apparently you dads condom was bigger than your personality!
and dads rubber was bigger than what run down on your mother

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Originally Posted by Scott F
There are professional driver on the road today that do a great job. The work hard, they work long hours, and they do it by the books. I did it for around six and a half years with no moving violations and no accidents.

Many a time I was doing the speed limit on cruse only to have a car pass me, cut back so close I could not see the tail lights from a slant hood Freightliner, and put on their brakes hard. The often slowed down to five or ten miles below the speed limit. I have had to break so hard I shifted 7,000 pound plus roles of paper to the front of the trailer and had to turn around and go back to the mill to be reloaded to be legal risking my ass to keep from killing some idiot. Just a hint, if you see a truck with 26 to 28 tires on the ground it might just be heavy and even a 80,000 pound rig cannot stop on a dime.

That said I will be the first to admit there are CDL drivers on the road who should not be allowed to ride a rocking horse.

To expect a truck to maintain 80 mph speeds in mountain country means you don't have the IQ to pas the test to be a bowling ball.
Scott understand mountains and heavy loads, we have dik weed drivers going thru Flatlands like Ill, Ia, NB, SD that side by side slow down for miles on end.

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In that case the belong to this part of my post.

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you would not believe the crap you see here in Iowa on the road from truckers, they must be from missouri

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My company has 700 trucks, we are governed at 65 mph.
I don't like it, damn I would love to be able to go 70.

Still I pass a lot of trucks. Swift has 14,000 trucks and they are governed at 62.

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Swift has 14,000 trucks and they are governed at 62.


Swift drivers need training wheels. I started with swift but the canned me when they found out I could back up. wink


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and most Swift trucks will ride the left lane for ever

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and most Swift trucks will ride the left lane for ever


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BTW do you know there are places in CA where you can shell out the $$$ and walk away with a CDL without ever taking a test or even knowing English?


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You know I get it a couple of years ago I contracted a bunch of trucks to haul equipment from Penn to Iowa. There were 50 plus loads and we set up JLG's to tarp and crews to chain down. I contract several loads as a buyer every month, but another part of my job is to go from point A to B and get fed up with the BS on the road

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I know you get it just as I do. There is no excuse for bad manors on the rod or anywhere else for that mater.

As stated above in someone's post it is getting a lot harder to find good drivers. I don't have a solution to the problem. It is a tough job and the money is getting poorer and poorer leaving bad drivers who can do nothing else. Seventy hour weeks and almost no home time make the good guys find other work.


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I was driving at 75 mph on I-25 (Colorado) yesterday {speed limit = 75] and was closely followed by a semi that wanted to go faster. I just tapped my brakes (to activate brake lights) and he backed off, pulled around and cut me off. so much for courteousness and obeying the law.


I am wondering why you did not just pull into another lane and let him go. It is what I do unless I am behind something where I can't go faster, then we both have to wait. If nobody in front of me, I pull over and would like others to do the same. miels


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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


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I am going to weigh in on this as we have heavy vehicle speed limiting to 100 kph for singles and b-doubles, and 90 kph for Road Trains...and I hold an Australian MC and have driven line-haul.


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My Dad is of the board of directors of one of the larger freight companies and he is expecting them to go to driverless trucks at some point. They are really struggling to find drivers, and the average age of their drivers continue to climb, with no relief on sight.


That will be because drivers are sick to death of being screwed over by the company they drive for, the arseholes loading, and the coppers that are out to shaft them every chance they get.


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There are professional driver on the road today that do a great job. The work hard, they work long hours, and they do it by the books. I did it for around six and a half years with no moving violations and no accidents.

Many a time I was doing the speed limit on cruse only to have a car pass me, cut back so close I could not see the tail lights from a slant hood Freightliner, and put on their brakes hard. The often slowed down to five or ten miles below the speed limit. I have had to break so hard I shifted 7,000 pound plus roles of paper to the front of the trailer and had to turn around and go back to the mill to be reloaded to be legal risking my ass to keep from killing some idiot. Just a hint, if you see a truck with 26 to 28 tires on the ground it might just be heavy and even a 80,000 pound rig cannot stop on a dime.

That said I will be the first to admit there are CDL drivers on the road who should not be allowed to ride a rocking horse.

To expect a truck to maintain 80 mph speeds in mountain country means you don't have the IQ to pas the test to be a bowling ball.


Like here there are undoubtedly a lot of very good drivers that most definitely are professional in their outlook and approach...there will also be a mass of absolute clowns that shouldn't be anywhere near a matchbox toy car on any given day of the week, you know them as they stand out like dogs balls every time you go for a drive, they are the ones the driving public notices.
And I am betting you have been hit by an influx of filth from india and every other cesspool around the globe that fancies themselves as Jesus on wheels, and I am also betting the bastards are getting away with murder as they do not understand English, can't fill in a log book...and are being used by the companies to screw local drivers out of a job, the same companies that are whinging about a lack of screwable drivers so they need to import more low filth from fukcrapistan.


And last but not least...I cannot wait to see how something created by some techy halfwit at microsoft goes about pulling into a property and loading up a mob of cattle, probably about as well it goes avoiding a mob of stock wandering over the road.

This isn't about safety, it is about companies screwing every last cent out of the game...and not paying.


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And as for the speed limiting...it works here.


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My Dad is of the board of directors of one of the larger freight companies and he is expecting them to go to driverless trucks at some point. They are really struggling to find drivers, and the average age of their drivers continue to climb, with no relief on sight.

It's your Dad's company that's the problem not the drivers. Companies that treat drivers like human beings and pay decent have all the drivers they need. Of course those companies are rare these days as is decent paying freight to support those companies. The driverless trucks are coming fast and they will be a disaster for the economy of flyover America but Washington doesn't care about what flyover thinks.
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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


Then he wouldn't get to play the grumpy speed nazi and keep everyone in their place.

99% of this crap could be avoided if people would just exercise some common courtesy and stay out of the left lane unless passing. Unfortunately common courtesy is in very short supply today.

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The only way driverless trucks will become reality is to take the interaction with cars out of the equation on the highways. A computer and sensor is no match for a idiot behind the wheel of a car.





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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


Why should safe drivers have too? They are not under any obligation to exceed the speed limit.


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Idaho's speed limit on freeways is 80. For trucks it's 70. Many trucks can't do 70 because of governors. So, we have cars going 80, trucks going between 60 and 70, and RV's going somewhere in between. Traffic jams have become the norm.


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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


Why should safe drivers have too? They are not under any obligation to exceed the speed limit.


You don't have to exceed the speed limit to move over into the right lane.

Besides, it's an obnoxious passive aggressive behavior that causes road rage and increases the chances for an accident. It's not your place to police the speed of others by blocking them with your car. It's pretty simple: Don't be an a$$hole.

It's also illegal in many states to block the left lane even if you are doing the speed limit. I wish it was enforced more vigorously.

Here's an article describing Indiana's new law:

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I was driving at 75 mph on I-25 (Colorado) yesterday {speed limit = 75] and was closely followed by a semi that wanted to go faster. I just tapped my brakes (to activate brake lights) and he backed off, pulled around and cut me off. so much for courteousness and obeying the law.


I am wondering why you did not just pull into another lane and let him go. It is what I do unless I am behind something where I can't go faster, then we both have to wait. If nobody in front of me, I pull over and would like others to do the same. miels


He explained it in the last sentence. He's discourteous and doesn't obey the law.

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I just try to stay off any freeways unless there's no other choice.. I-94 is a half-mile away, but I take the back roads instead when going east/west.. It seems every other time I do use it there's a crash ahead or some vehicle on fire and traffic's backed up for miles..

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Why should safe drivers have too?


What is safe about being in the way and pizzing people off?

You obviously don't have to, but courtesy should dictate that you do. miles


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While Idaho doesn't have a specific right lane law, there are signs that tell slower traffic to keep right. However, with the great variation of speeds we have, you can often be going the speed limit in the left lane and the only way to move right is to slow down 10 mph.


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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


Why should safe drivers have too? They are not under any obligation to exceed the speed limit.


Safe drivers don't ride in the passing lane, they travel in the travel lane and pass on the left.





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I got hosed in traffic last week when some dummy turned his fuel tanker upside down on I5.

Shut down the interstate in both directions for a while.

In addition to speed limiting, I'd like to see trucks relegated to certain lanes.


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They are. In three and four lane roads there should be no trucks in the left land in WA.


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Just keep them the fug out of the passing lane.
Agreed, Diesel dummies trying to control the speed of traffic by getting side by side and driving 5 miles below the speed limit for miles on end, fug them and their mothers , wives and daughters


What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


Oh God, one of those.... Didn't you go to driving school?

The Left Lane, AKA PASSING LANE is just for that, PASSING. If you see someone behind you, for chrissakes MOVE OVER and whatever you do, PLEASE don't "join up" with the other slow driver on the right lane.


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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


Why should safe drivers have too? They are not under any obligation to exceed the speed limit.


Yes you are, Ace. The left lane is the PASSING LANE. On a three lane road, the left lane continues to be the passing lane, the center lane is the transit lane (for you moderates) and the right lane is for women and geezers.


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Lot of folks should just hang up their driving.

They can't stand to be with any other folks on the road. grin

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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


Why should safe drivers have too? They are not under any obligation to exceed the speed limit.


Safe drivers don't ride in the passing lane, they travel in the travel lane and pass on the left.


Really! Safe drivers don't think they own the road and can constantly exceed the speed limit.


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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


Why should safe drivers have too? They are not under any obligation to exceed the speed limit.


Yes you are, Ace. The left lane is the PASSING LANE. On a three lane road, the left lane continues to be the passing lane, the center lane is the transit lane (for you moderates) and the right lane is for women and geezers.


Speed limit applies to all lane, Ace.


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More federal meddling.


^^^He's exactly right^^^

We're we supposed to have a 10th Amendment? Didn't the states give the right for the federal government to exist? Weren't we supposed to have a decentralized government with a limited federal government? Weren't we supposed to have maximum individual liberty?

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I can see where this is going. GPS units will monitor speeds of certain vehicles for safety purposes only. When equipped vehicles exceed safe speeds, drivers will receive computer generated citations for violations. This will work out so well, that every vehicle driven upon any road/freeway in the USA will be required to be equipped with GPS monitoring units. Just think of all of that money that will be fleeced from Americans. And of course, it'll be for safety purposes only. We gotta think of the children.

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What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


What is wrong with getting out of other peoples way? miles


Why should safe drivers have too? They are not under any obligation to exceed the speed limit.


Yes you are, Ace. The left lane is the PASSING LANE. On a three lane road, the left lane continues to be the passing lane, the center lane is the transit lane (for you moderates) and the right lane is for women and geezers.


Speed limit applies to all lane, Ace.


No it does not. But nice dodge to my statement out of staying out of the left lane. Aside from COMMON F U C K I N G courtesy, it is a SAFER MOVE to MOVE OVER instead of creating a hazard by blocking traffic.


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When two lanes are going the same direction you can pass in either lane. Just sayin.

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Passing on the right is generally frowned upon.

If your holding up traffic, just move the fugg over. It's not a hard concept to grasp.


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They are. In three and four lane roads there should be no trucks in the left land in WA.


I was thinking more like a truck only lane on the right. Kinda a hov for trucks they aren't allowed to operate out of.


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I can see where this is going. GPS units will monitor speeds of certain vehicles for safety purposes only. When equipped vehicles exceed safe speeds, drivers will receive computer generated citations for violations. This will work out so well, that every vehicle driven upon any road/freeway in the USA will be required to be equipped with GPS monitoring units. Just think of all of that money that will be fleeced from Americans. And of course, it'll be for safety purposes only. We gotta think of the children.

Yeah, right!


You are so far behind the times. Most companies know where a truck is at any given moment, speed, RPMs and a stack of other data. Go to fast and you are out the door.


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I can see where this is going. GPS units will monitor speeds of certain vehicles for safety purposes only. When equipped vehicles exceed safe speeds, drivers will receive computer generated citations for violations. This will work out so well, that every vehicle driven upon any road/freeway in the USA will be required to be equipped with GPS monitoring units. Just think of all of that money that will be fleeced from Americans. And of course, it'll be for safety purposes only. We gotta think of the children.

Yeah, right!


You are so far behind the times. Most companies know where a truck is at any given moment, speed, RPMs and a stack of other data. Go to fast and you are out the door.


Scott,

No, I'm not behind anything. I know that GPS units have been in use for decades, which is how delivery companies track our packages. But that's not the topic of this thread. The topic is GOVERNMENTAL intervention.

Why would you suppose the feds want a speed monitoring device installed on commercial vehicles? Do you think that this is a slippery slope, that government can incrementally require all vehicles to be equipped with such devices? And from there, what will it do with information it collects from Joe speeding to work on the freeway? Can you envision Joe receiving a computer generated cite? Can you envision how government can use such devices to generate a whole of revenue that it'll fleece from the everyday, average Joes and Josephines of the country?

Oh yeah, don't forget that government can exert greater control over us by requiring every car sold in America to be equipped with a monitoring device.

From there, where does it go? Will government requiring tracking devices on our debit cards? That we'll be unable to disable tracking devices on our cell phones?

Seems as though only women have an expectation of privacy when they want to rid themselves of the burden of pregnancy.

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Originally Posted by MissouriEd

What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


Everything.



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This was all just a matter of time anyway.

Every dumb fugk and their brother thinks using a phone and driving is an impossibility. They also think seat belts should be mandatory and motorcycles should be legal.

There's no logic in anything any more. It's all feel good idiotic BS.

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In Idaho, the freeway limit is 80 and that applies to all lanes. If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right. Since you're already going the speed limit and passing cars & trucks doing it, I see no reason to slow down so someone can break the law. If I can do it without slowing down, then I'll move over.


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Originally Posted by SakoAV
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I can see where this is going. GPS units will monitor speeds of certain vehicles for safety purposes only. When equipped vehicles exceed safe speeds, drivers will receive computer generated citations for violations. This will work out so well, that every vehicle driven upon any road/freeway in the USA will be required to be equipped with GPS monitoring units. Just think of all of that money that will be fleeced from Americans. And of course, it'll be for safety purposes only. We gotta think of the children.

Yeah, right!


You are so far behind the times. Most companies know where a truck is at any given moment, speed, RPMs and a stack of other data. Go to fast and you are out the door.


Scott,

No, I'm not behind anything. I know that GPS units have been in use for decades, which is how delivery companies track our packages. But that's not the topic of this thread. The topic is GOVERNMENTAL intervention.

Why would you suppose the feds want a speed monitoring device installed on commercial vehicles? Do you think that this is a slippery slope, that government can incrementally require all vehicles to be equipped with such devices? And from there, what will it do with information it collects from Joe speeding to work on the freeway? Can you envision Joe receiving a computer generated cite? Can you envision how government can use such devices to generate a whole of revenue that it'll fleece from the everyday, average Joes and Josephines of the country?

Oh yeah, don't forget that government can exert greater control over us by requiring every car sold in America to be equipped with a monitoring device.

From there, where does it go? Will government requiring tracking devices on our debit cards? That we'll be unable to disable tracking devices on our cell phones?

Seems as though only women have an expectation of privacy when they want to rid themselves of the burden of pregnancy.

There are two ways to enact public policy: rational comprehensive or incrementally. With the former, government bands and confiscates guns in one action. In the latter, government constricts the population of gun owners until no one is deemed safe to own guns.


The Government already is in the loop. Trucking companys get two inspections a year where they can look at any of the data collected and match it the drivers log book. It has been going on for years.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
In Idaho, the freeway limit is 80 and that applies to all lanes. If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right. Since you're already going the speed limit and passing cars & trucks doing it, I see no reason to slow down so someone can break the law. If I can do it without slowing down, then I'll move over.


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When two lanes are going the same direction you can pass in either lane. Just sayin.


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In Idaho, the freeway limit is 80 and that applies to all lanes. If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right. Since you're already going the speed limit and passing cars & trucks doing it, I see no reason to slow down so someone can break the law. If I can do it without slowing down, then I'll move over.


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In Idaho, the freeway limit is 80 and that applies to all lanes. If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right. Since you're already going the speed limit and passing cars & trucks doing it, I see no reason to slow down so someone can break the law. If I can do it without slowing down, then I'll move over.


Amen Cousin, thank you.


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...If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right...


Come on!


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
In Idaho, the freeway limit is 80 and that applies to all lanes. If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right. Since you're already going the speed limit and passing cars & trucks doing it, I see no reason to slow down so someone can break the law. If I can do it without slowing down, then I'll move over.


The question is why are you driving in the left lane then? I believe the law in MT is to travel in the right hand lane unless passing or turning. Though I've never heard of anyone actually getting ticketed for it. I wish they would enforce it though. You also are permitted to go 10 over in order to pass.


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Actually we weren't in a hurry(in the right lane...) but when wife fell asleep the Explorer momentarily hit triple digits. Not another vehicle on the highway for miles......

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Careful RezDawg, I've read on here that you are NOT permitted to travel over the posted limit! And by Gawd they'll block all lanes of traffic to ensure it!


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Careful RezDawg, I've read on here that you are NOT permitted to travel over the posted limit! And by Gawd they'll block all lanes of traffic to ensure it!

Perhaps for a while.

At some point though I suspect a decent Ukrainian/Ruski/KGB team would plow an opening.


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I was more worried about a tire blowing.



Cruising about 90, slow down to 74.


Wife asked, "Why'd you slow done?"


We're doing 74....


She replies, "Well it seems like we are going slow"....


Can you say smooth operator?!

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And around here you will have 2 trucks side by side going below the speed limit for miles on end, across Iowa, Illinois, Tennessee, Missouri, Indiana, and Kentucky.

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I see a lot of people on here need to drive a truck some , and they will drive their car/pickup different. And there are a few here I'd probably just blow their stupid head off if they cam across with the attuide they do here

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Originally Posted by SamOlson
I was more worried about a tire blowing.



Cruising about 90, slow down to 74.


Wife asked, "Why'd you slow done?"


We're doing 74....


She replies, "Well it seems like we are going slow"....


Can you say smooth operator?!


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I see a lot of people on here need to drive a truck some , and they will drive their car/pickup different. And there are a few here I'd probably just blow their stupid head off if they cam across with the attuide they do here


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On the drive back I asked her, "Remember that time you gave me road head?"




She sarcastically replied, "I was stoned".




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Gotta watch how you cam across.


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I have a sales territory that requires about 1,000 miles a week to manage, so I'm on on the road a good bit. I love it when I consistently help the truck drivers on the road, only to have one pull out in front of me, unnecessarily, a few miles from home. Pos will slow roll at about 20 under the speed limit for the next few miles. Makes me regret the courtesy that I extended to them earlier in the day. Nonetheless, I help them when I can.

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Those here who have never spent time in the driver's seat of a semi have no clue.


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I think the right thing to do is make all trucks illegal. That was those scum of the earth truck drivers won't bother anyone any more.


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I think the right thing to do is make all trucks illegal. That was those scum of the earth truck drivers won't bother anyone any more.


Don't be cunnty.



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I think the right thing to do is make all trucks illegal. That was those scum of the earth truck drivers won't bother anyone any more.


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But is it so much fun. grin

I have said it before, there are CDL drivers out there that should not be driving anything but expecting a semi to hit the freeway at 70 is just stupid. So is expecting one to stop on a dime.

Seems like a few here would rather there were no trucks on the road so they would be free to drive any way they want.


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In Idaho, the freeway limit is 80 and that applies to all lanes. If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right. Since you're already going the speed limit and passing cars & trucks doing it, I see no reason to slow down so someone can break the law. If I can do it without slowing down, then I'll move over.


The question is why are you driving in the left lane then? I believe the law in MT is to travel in the right hand lane unless passing or turning. Though I've never heard of anyone actually getting ticketed for it. I wish they would enforce it though. You also are permitted to go 10 over in order to pass.
Read my post. You think you're allowed 10 over to pass? I have a ticket to prove otherwise. I was going 5 over while passing and got tagged.


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Originally Posted by Scott F
I think the right thing to do is make all trucks illegal. That was those scum of the earth truck drivers won't bother anyone any more.


Take cars off the interstate highway system, you would see a drastic reduction in truck accidents. Several on this site shouldn't be allowed anywhere near commercial class 8 veichle with a car at highway speeds.





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If your holding up traffic, just move the fugg over. It's not a hard concept to grasp.


Most people that do this schitt, also want to impose their moral on you too. They think they are right in all things. Been around a bunch of them in my life. Then you have the ones that set the cruise control and forget about everything around them. miles


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Originally Posted by Pat85
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I think the right thing to do is make all trucks illegal. That was those scum of the earth truck drivers won't bother anyone any more.


Take cars off the interstate highway system, you would see a drastic reduction in truck accidents. Several on this site shouldn't be allowed anywhere near commercial class 8 veichle with a car at highway speeds.





From my experience the biggest single problem for truck drivers is car drivers that think trucks are just big cars.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Read my post. You think you're allowed 10 over to pass? I have a ticket to prove otherwise. I was going 5 over while passing and got tagged.


You're fugking homo.

Get your slow ass out of the left lane.




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if i had someone in my car who needed medical attention and some ass hole wouldn't pull over to let me pass, they would have all kinds of problems.


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If your holding up traffic, just move the fugg over. It's not a hard concept to grasp.


Most people that do this schitt, also want to impose their moral on you too. They think they are right in all things. Been around a bunch of them in my life. Then you have the ones that set the cruise control and forget about everything around them. miles


That would be me. Set the cruse on the speedlimit or a little under and stay in the right or middle lane. Pass slower traffic on the left and move back over when safe.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
In Idaho, the freeway limit is 80 and that applies to all lanes. If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right. Since you're already going the speed limit and passing cars & trucks doing it, I see no reason to slow down so someone can break the law. If I can do it without slowing down, then I'll move over.


The question is why are you driving in the left lane then? I believe the law in MT is to travel in the right hand lane unless passing or turning. Though I've never heard of anyone actually getting ticketed for it. I wish they would enforce it though. You also are permitted to go 10 over in order to pass.
Read my post. You think you're allowed 10 over to pass? I have a ticket to prove otherwise. I was going 5 over while passing and got tagged.


Apologies Rock Chuck. Some nights I really should not post. smile

As to the 10 over I was speaking strictly to MT. I did not read the law,but have been told this by MHP troopers who would give their dying mother a speeding ticket.


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if i had someone in my car who needed medical attention and some ass hole wouldn't pull over to let me pass, they would have all kinds of problems.


Just wonder how many on this site would also advocate firearm violence against any drivers who obey the law?


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I'm a big fan of road rage.




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I'm a big fan of road rage.

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I'm not going to read the whole thread, but aren't most of the trucks for major carriers governored anyway? It really sucks to get caught for five miles as a truck governored at 62 makes a one mph pass on another guy.

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Ontario has a law requiring the use of speed limiting devices on certain CMVs, basically ones built after 1995 with a GVW of 24,000 lbs or above. They must be equipped with a device that limits their speed to 105 kmph (65 mph.) On our roads during our eight months of tough sledding that's likely enough as witnessed by the vast number of commercial ditch torpedoes.

Most of the local log trucks self limited years ago to 60 mph or a little less claiming sizeable savings in fuel. $60 per day, 250 days a year, 6-8 trucks on the road. It adds up, but they did it on their own before government regulation.


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Originally Posted by MissouriEd
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if i had someone in my car who needed medical attention and some ass hole wouldn't pull over to let me pass, they would have all kinds of problems.


Just wonder how many on this site would also advocate firearm violence against any drivers who obey the law?


I would. Every truck driver should be shot in the groin and left beside the road with his piss jug in hand.


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I would go along with this IF they required trucks and buses to stay in the right lane only, or if 3-4 lanes, right two lanes only.

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Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude
I would go along with this IF they required trucks and buses to stay in the right lane only, or if 3-4 lanes, right two lanes only.


I do not know of ant state that does not.

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Except for places line Connecticut that have a bunch of left lane exits.

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I was wondering if State Troopers will write a ticket to a driver that holds up traffic while trying to pass another truck? I40 between Nashville and Little Rock is a nightmare because of all the truck traffic .

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Truckers can't make money if they can't speed

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Originally Posted by MissouriEd
Had a good looking blonde give me a finger flip one time. I could a went into a rage over her.


You drive so bad you piss women drivers off?

Impressive.




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Originally Posted by Scott F


To expect a truck to maintain 80 mph speeds in mountain country means you don't have the IQ to pas the test to be a bowling ball.


I don't care who you are, that's funny. I just upped the HP and torque on our heavy haul tractor to try to keep up with traffic a little better.

Came up on I84 last year, and some idjit had hit the back of a 105,000K milk tanker pulling the long hill between Glens Ferry and Mountain Home. Hit the rear tag axle so hard they tore it off. Remains of the pickup scattered to hell and back.

Some people should not be allowed to push a gas pedal under any circumstances.


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Truckers can't make money if they can't speed


Truckers can't make money now mater what they do.


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Load heavy and drive fast. Tonnage first, safety last. miles


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Truckers can't make money now mater what they do.


Load heavy and drive fast. Tonnage first, safety last. miles


I have done a lot of the first part. Seldom pulled out with a gross weight under 100,000 lbs but crossing three major passes without killing anyone pretty much ruled out the last two. grin


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If people drove Autobahn rules, the freeways would be safer. Lead, follow or GTF out of the way, for God's sake!
I always flash trucks when needed, give them room, never do the dive and turn, always always signal and acknowledge.
And they notice.
I've had long drives where the truckers are apparently talking about me, friendly flashes and quick pull-overs. Amazing what some overt courtesy and road awareness will get you.
One night back east, I even got the flashity flash, tucked right in and there were the cops.....don't know if it was the Montana plates or what, but the big rigs were watching out for us, this was I think in Kentucky. Couple miles later the running lights blinked again and away we went.
Then, of course, there is the Magnet @$$ game, especially in Washington State. Come up on a gaggle and you'll always skin off several as you pass.
So, what happens when you move back over to the right lane?
And then slow down? Yep. Magnet @$$.

And by the way, governors stink and are dangerous. There should be a limited override to allow going faster for two miles or so to allow a run on a hill or to complete a pass in good time. But THAT would make sense.



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Driving like a grandma in the passing lane is akin to standing in the entrance of the grocery store and catching up with a long lost friend.

Face that way. On your knees. BANG!




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I have pulled a few older friends aside at the entrance of various buildings....




I forget you city people drive a lot of fancy interstate roads.

My favorites truckers are 99% two lane highway and gravel and they sure as hell don't have a stinking governor!


And when you meet a loaded one on a gravel road, slow down and pull your ass over to the side.
Let 'em have the middle if the shoulders are soft. We don't need to flop a load of cows!

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Originally Posted by deflave
Driving like a grandma in the passing lane is akin to standing in the entrance of the grocery store and catching up with a long lost friend.

Face that way. On your knees. BANG!




Vote 'flave.


Or telling the cashier all about little Jimmy going off to college and how your uterus fell out long after she handed you the receipt.

Stores ought to hire some poor disabled kids to go stand in the corners and and let old people talk to them.


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Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
There should be a limited override to allow going faster for two miles or so to allow a run on a hill or to complete a pass in good time. But THAT would make sense.



Two miles wouldn't help at all on any of the passes I used daily.


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Originally Posted by MadMooner
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Driving like a grandma in the passing lane is akin to standing in the entrance of the grocery store and catching up with a long lost friend.

Face that way. On your knees. BANG!




Vote 'flave.


Or telling the cashier all about little Jimmy going off to college and how your uterus fell out long after she handed you the receipt.

Stores ought to hire some poor disabled kids to go stand in the corners and and let old people talk to them.


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Originally Posted by djs


I was driving at 75 mph on I-25 (Colorado) yesterday {speed limit = 75] and was closely followed by a semi that wanted to go faster. I just tapped my brakes (to activate brake lights) and he backed off, pulled around and cut me off. so much for courteousness and obeying the law.

If there was room for the semi to pass you on the right, why the [bleep] didn't you move to the right in the first place and let him pass? Most states have laws against driving in the left lane and blocking faster traffic. Even if Colorado does not have such a law, what YOU were doing is dangerous and discourteous.


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Oh, and it anyone wonders why all the trucks are in the middle lane of a three lane freeway.... it's because less than one out of ten four wheelers understand the concept of merging on or off on a ramp.

I've completely given up on the whole concept, and park my 90,000 lbs square in the middle lane. That way Miss blue-hair, Mr. Old Man-in-Hat or teeny-bopper can't-wait-to-put-this-on-Facebook can slam onto the freeway at a frightening 45 mph and get up to speed when they get comfortable.

Don't like it? Have the cops start writing tickets...


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I always loved it when they would come down the ramp and drive on the shoulder for a quarter of a mile to get in front of me. Then they would cut right in front of me and slow down. Usually happens at least once a day.


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Originally Posted by SamOlson


My favorites truckers are 99% two lane highway and gravel and they sure as hell don't have a stinking governor!


Cattle haulers are hard to keep up with on the interstates out there.





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Just keep them the fug out of the passing lane.
Agreed, Diesel dummies trying to control the speed of traffic by getting side by side and driving 5 miles below the speed limit for miles on end, fug them and their mothers , wives and daughters


What's so wrong with driving the speed limit in the left lane?


Oh God, one of those.... Didn't you go to driving school?

The Left Lane, AKA PASSING LANE is just for that, PASSING. If you see someone behind you, for chrissakes MOVE OVER and whatever you do, PLEASE don't "join up" with the other slow driver on the right lane.
LMAO.. Obviously the entire 7-county metro area of the Twin Cities never went to driving school.. Left lane hoggers to the MAX..

The topper was this: About 5-6 years ago I was driving on I-35 in the area where the speed limit is 45 mph.. Ahead of me was a signed "Driver's Ed" car with two people in it.. And IT WAS IN THE LEFT LANE AND DID NOT MOVE OVER!!!!

In the Twin Cities - if ya wanna pass someone - ya use the RH lane, 'cause the LH lanes are stuffed with a-holes that will NOT move over...

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In Idaho, the freeway limit is 80 and that applies to all lanes. If you're doing 80 in the left lane and someone wants to pass, you usually have to slow down to 70 or so to move right. Since you're already going the speed limit and passing cars & trucks doing it, I see no reason to slow down so someone can break the law. If I can do it without slowing down, then I'll move over.


Amen Cousin, thank you.


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If there was room for the semi to pass you on the right, why the [bleep] didn't you move to the right in the first place and let him pass? Most states have laws against driving in the left lane and blocking faster traffic. Even if Colorado does not have such a law, what YOU were doing is dangerous and discourteous.


Because he's a fugking ass hole that doesn't know how to drive.

That's why.




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LMAO.. Obviously the entire 7-county metro area of the Twin Cities never went to driving school.. Left lane hoggers to the MAX..



When we drive to Poland (AKA Minnesoduh) you can literally fly the entire way.

Blinker, left lane, zoooom.

Until you get east of Fargo. It's like some sort of invisible barrier of stupidity. The second you cross that border cars start hanging out in the left lane and the roads turn to dog schit.



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LMAO.. Obviously the entire 7-county metro area of the Twin Cities never went to driving school.. Left lane hoggers to the MAX..



When we drive to Poland (AKA Minnesoduh) you can literally fly the entire way.

Blinker, left lane, zoooom.

Until you get east of Fargo. It's like some sort of invisible barrier of stupidity. The second you cross that border cars start hanging out in the left lane and the roads turn to dog schit.
And that's in the summer.. Just WAIT until winter... MN has literally NO CLUE how to clear a highway..

But I digress - sorry.. laugh


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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-mulls-rule-require-speed-limiting-devices-trucks-145040555.html
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The U.S. Transportation Department on Friday issued a proposed rule that would require trucks and buses to be equipped with devices that would limit their speed, a move it said could save both lives and fuel.

The agency said it will weigh setting speed limits at 60, 65 or 68 miles per hour for heavy commercial vehicles, but will consider other speeds based on comments from the public. Speed limits on interstate highways vary across the United States, with some states allowing vehicles to drive as fast as 85 miles (137 km) per hour, though many states have lower maximum speeds for trucks.

"There are significant safety benefits to this proposed rulemaking," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement. "In addition to saving lives, the projected fuel and emissions savings make this proposal a win for safety, energy conservation, and our environment."

Under the long-delayed proposal, all new U.S. trucks and buses weighing more than 26,000 pounds (11,793 kg) would need to be equipped with a speed-limiting device.

The department said the maximum allowable speed would be decided after the agency receives public input. Publication of the proposal kicks off a 60-day comment period.

It said both vehicle manufacturers and the companies that purchase and operate the vehicles would be subject to the rule.

Representatives of truck makers and large truck fleets contacted Friday did not comment or said they were still studying the proposal.



It's for the environment...





For once I'm for this regulation. Where we live (So. Texas) there are literally 1000's of tanker trucks (Eagle Ford) and NAFTA rigs blowing down the roads at 80-85 mph. Not to mention most of our roads are 2 lane- crazy amounts of fatality accidents in our area.

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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-mulls-rule-require-speed-limiting-devices-trucks-145040555.html
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The U.S. Transportation Department on Friday issued a proposed rule that would require trucks and buses to be equipped with devices that would limit their speed, a move it said could save both lives and fuel.

The agency said it will weigh setting speed limits at 60, 65 or 68 miles per hour for heavy commercial vehicles, but will consider other speeds based on comments from the public. Speed limits on interstate highways vary across the United States, with some states allowing vehicles to drive as fast as 85 miles (137 km) per hour, though many states have lower maximum speeds for trucks. BBBuTT they are all pro drivers

"There are significant safety benefits to this proposed rulemaking," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement. "In addition to saving lives, the projected fuel and emissions savings make this proposal a win for safety, energy conservation, and our environment."

Under the long-delayed proposal, all new U.S. trucks and buses weighing more than 26,000 pounds (11,793 kg) would need to be equipped with a speed-limiting device.

The department said the maximum allowable speed would be decided after the agency receives public input. Publication of the proposal kicks off a 60-day comment period.

It said both vehicle manufacturers and the companies that purchase and operate the vehicles would be subject to the rule.

Representatives of truck makers and large truck fleets contacted Friday did not comment or said they were still studying the proposal.



It's for the environment...





For once I'm for this regulation. Where we live (So. Texas) there are literally 1000's of tanker trucks (Eagle Ford) and NAFTA rigs blowing down the roads at 80-85 mph. Not to mention most of our roads are 2 lane- crazy amounts of fatality accidents in our area.

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ones that bitch about "trucks" the most are the same ones that blow through work zones at 20+ over posted speeds cause they didn't see nothing

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ones that bitch about "trucks" the most are the same ones that blow through work zones at 20+ over posted speeds cause they didn't see nothing
BS more trucks blast up in the merging lanes into work zones than cars that I have seen.

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I sure an glad I am retired. It is obvious I am not smart enough to know how to drive a truck. wink


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Scott, when I mean "pass" I mean two commercial trucks at different speeds PASSING with happy running lights blinking rather than having an effing "governor race." Seen a few of those, you'd think the guy being passed could take TWO MPH off his dial-o-matic and help out, mmmmm?

And being able to run up a hill means you can tip over the top without going all the way to the bottom of the gearbox. In a younger time, I drove wheat, that was a study in momentum management, you betcha. I'd start grabbing gears way before I started any climb -- if it was safe to try it. Going down? All air brakes are good for is parking.

As for DJS, you don't get a medal or gold star for matching the number on your speedo to the one on the sign, okay? If there's room, move the heck over.

Being from Montana, when I go out of state, I'm repeatedly stunned by the vast number of "drivers" who have never, ever actually "driven the road" and adjusted their speed for CONDITIONS. They slavishly stick to the "speed limit plus 3" or whatever the heck their formula is -- and when CONDITIONS go south, they wonder why they're in an 80 car pileup?

Gosh, I miss Montana's basic rule.


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As a heavy haul driver I was always the truck in the right lane going up hills, down hills, and on the flats. I really cannot remember passing another truck and if I did come up on a slower truck I am plenty old enough to understand one or two miles per hour slower will not cause me to have a stroke.

I cannot speak for nor will I in any way defend other CDL drivers. As I have stated many times there are drivers out there who should not be allowed to walk let alone drive. Consider there are places in CA where an non English speaking illegal can walk in, pot down the cash, and walk out with a CDL in hand without ever having taken a test or driven anything at all.


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