Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Epi-pen 'splaining, Reverse VOX Style

Big fish, You're over your head on this one, son. How many epi shots have you given in your life for allergic reactions? How many times have you pushed epi during a cardiac event? The FDA is a joke and shares a tremendous amount of blame for the prescription drug problems this country faces but this situation IS NOT the fault of the FDA.

Instead of changing my post, which I expected some dipshlt to do, you should educate yourself. It would help you to look less foolish, ignorant and immature.

I'm here from the government and I'm here to help

If you already have a prescription for an Epi-pen, the next time it expires just call the prescribing doc and ask for the $7.00 medication version along with a few syringes.

The shelf life of epinephrine is short (thinking 6 Month)... so if I get stung my thought process would go something like,"Damn that hurts... crap I'm starting to have a hard time breathing... man I hate needles... wait I'm saving over $1200 this year by poking myself in the leg with a conventional needle.... I'm going to buy that 6.5 Creedmore Montana I have been thinking about....".

Epinephrine is an old drug-I mean very old. I'm retired recently now from giving anesthesia but the very last case I did was a healthy, young (30's) patient who presented for a normal and usual procedure and as we say in the vernacular, should have been a "walk in the park" anesthesia-wise.

It turns out she proceeded to a total anaphylactic shock due to some extraneous agent (I will not name here but not given me ). "Epi" and some other drugs and mucho fast decisions and action literally saved her brain and her life.

This drug in "epi-pen" form (which she now requires in multiple locations) should not be expensive. No figures or facts in hand but if I saw the glass house of the ACA on the hill, and had the opportunity, I walk up and throw the biggest rock I could. And as hard and fast as I could.
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Yep.

The greed involved is holding allergic people financially hostage.

It's the sort of move that makes people make bad decisions.

The cost of the drug gets mentioned in every complaint about Epi-Pen, but it's really meaningless since it's not just the drug one pays for.

It's the safety and convenience you're buying.

It was safe and convenient At $50 too.

You're actually being bent over and horse-p h u c k e d with your pants on, under the 'guise' of safety and convenience.

I'd imagine that a large portion of that money went to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation.

The seem to have an awful lot of fingers in an awful lot of pies.

Stop making sense.

Then answer my damn question: Why doesn't someone just start making and selling EpiPens and selling them for $20 a pop?

It's a really easy answer.

I'll ask it another way or two: What stands in the way of someone bringing a $20 EpiPen to market? If the drug portion is so cheap, why can't someone just start selling EpiPens and undercut the big guy and still make a profit?

Obviously there's a HUGE market for a cheap EpiPen, and the cost of goods sold is minute.

HINT: It's the FDA, which is part of what?

And don't blame this on the lawsuits. Patent is up on the thing. If you can't prove in court that you should be able to produce this without patent infringement, you hired the worst corporate lawyers money can buy.

The manufacturer or the patent owner sets the price not the FDA. Capiche?

^Here's another hint^

I can't answer your damn question. I'm not in the business.

It doesn't change the fact that there is zero reasoning for the epi=pen to cost as much as it does; other than they can get away with it.

I get free market, etc as well as anyone, but there is a basic humane element being purposely avoided.

Did you read the part about the CEO of the epi-pen co. being the daughter of the politician Joe Manchin, or the fact the FDA interfered, and the competitors being denied by approval the FDA?

Not to mention the lobbyist.

Can you say pay to play?

We are becoming a banana republic.

The R&D on them, as well as the FDA studies on them, were done decades ago.

They charge as much as they can get away with. I think they found that point now.