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Question of the day:
Define "crook."
Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Question of the day:
Define "crook."
Dave Someone who has more than I. ;-{>8
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Question of the day:
Define "crook."
Dave Criminal. Whether prosecuted, or not. For instance, I would consider Hillery Clinton a crook, even though she is about to be elected President.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Anyone catch Bernie Sanders latest purchase?
Immediately following his election loss he purchased his 3rd home - a $575K 'cabin' in Maine.
Bernie is not quite in the 1%, more like the top 3%, but he certainly advocated socialism for you - not necessarily for him. Do ya think he has lost a little with his followers? Lets hope so...Sanders was full of Pie in the Sky ideas that sound great but one must always ask the question....How do you plan to pay for that one? I do think the states should follow Cali's lead when it comes to low cost and abundant Community Colleges. If we make it fairly low cost to get 2 years of college or traders training more people will have the ability to earn more and in the end pay more taxes. This will help the 1% pleas than they do now as well!
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Are the Clinton Mafia in the top 1%?
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Anyone catch Bernie Sanders latest purchase?
Immediately following his election loss he purchased his 3rd home - a $575K 'cabin' in Maine.
Bernie is not quite in the 1%, more like the top 3%, but he certainly advocated socialism for you - not necessarily for him. Do ya think he has lost a little with his followers? Lets hope so...Sanders was full of Pie in the Sky ideas that sound great but one must always ask the question....How do you plan to pay for that one? (That's what conservatives have been asking tax and spend Democrats for decades. None I have ever heard advocated spending cuts. It's always need more taxes!)I do think the states should follow Cali's lead when it comes to low cost and abundant Community Colleges. If we make it fairly low cost to get 2 years of college or traders training more people will have the ability to earn more and in the end pay more taxes. This will help the 1% pleas than they do now as well!
College is also a great place to learn wealth envy, from professors who make 6 figures. Is this a fugked up country now or what?
Mark
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Oh The Drama!
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the fellow that owned the Pharma company I was working for when I retired, has a Boeing 757 as a private plane. He upgraded from the older 737 a few years ago.
He has the largest property on Star Island in Miami, and was worth about 7 billion on the last Forbes report.
Nice fellow, accessible, friendly. Used to eat lunch with him from time to time in the building. Self made man. He was an MD, and just made some dang good business decisions. He earned his money.
Sam......
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Criminal. Whether prosecuted, or not.
So one definition of a crook is a person that committed a crime. Anybody else? Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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There are plenty of ways to steal legally but not morally.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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There are plenty of ways to steal legally but not morally. If it's legal it ain't stealing. Period.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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There are plenty of ways to steal legally but not morally. If it's legal it ain't stealing. Period. More to the point, so long as you have receipts.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Heh. Good one and too true, Mate.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Doesn't hurt to have an accountant with the creativity of a De Vinci and the morals of a clinton either.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Knowing and taking advantage of existing tax laws is no crime. Of cource, the best you can afford does help.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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There are plenty of ways to steal legally but not morally. If it's legal it ain't stealing. Period. Exactly. Folks who twist words twist words to mean what they want them to mean, not what the word normally means.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
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There are plenty of ways to steal legally but not morally. If it's legal it ain't stealing. Period. Exactly. Folks who twist words twist words to mean what they want them to mean, not what the word normally means. One wonders what you mean.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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I caddied golf tournaments back in college for some $$$ and met some cool people. One guy comes to mind, Paul. Older guy, foreign background, but very nice and polite. Caddied a particular tournament two years in a row, and was in his group both years.
The first year talked about what he did and found he owned 20something car dealerships. Had a single engine Piper plane he used for short trips. The following year he had sold all his dealerships and got into commercial real estate and still had his Piper, but also bought a Cessna Citation (don't remember exactly which model) for $7M. His justification for it was he was tired of the airlines - completely agree with that. Just hangar and maintenance alone was $400k a year.
Most everyone at the matches were in a good mood since they're all out to have fun golfing, but some were even dicks then. Depending on who it was I'd get tipped $20 each at a minimum, but Paul would whip out $100. The second year he handed me a $100 bill, looked at his wallet, then gave me another $100 bill. Cheap ass (Toranto Blue Jay) Joe Carter was the only person to ever stiff me - and that was after he'd been bragging about how much money he won at the casino the night before.
Out of HS I worked at the San Jose Jet Center refueling private planes and jets and met a lot of people. CEOs, owner of the A's, 49ers, and whatever the others did. Some were pr!cks and some were really cool.
Talked to the pilots one day when the A's daughter was flying up to Tahoe with her husband, think it took them 21 minutes to get there, only because of the 250knot speed limit under 10k feet or it would have been 17 minutes so they said. Must be nice. Your post points out that people are individuals, rich or not. Among people who made their own wealth, I've found that those whose first priority was to create the best product or provide the best service and got rich along the way are usually pretty decent folks. They loved doing what they did for its own sake, money for them was a nice byproduct but mostly just a way of keeping score. Then there are those whose goal in life was to make as much money as possible any way possible - lie, cheat, steal - anything was okay as long as it made money. Lots of times those folks do get very rich but they are universally ass-holes of the highest order. Money or having money is not evil by itself, the love of money is the root of all evil. Hillary Clinton is a prime example of that... I deal on a regular basis what I call "micro-millionaires". Restaurant franchise owners that have a little bit of cash in the pocket but not rich enough to be dangerous. I have yet to meet one that isn't an A-hole. They talk to you like they own you and I have NEVER had one not complain about something I was doing at their store. Most of the time it's something ridiculous that they have no idea what they are talking about. God forbid they talk to you about it no no. They have to call your boss. Then I get back and we have a laugh about how the guy is a giant D-bag. i dunno what it is about a few bucks in your pocket that makes people think they are better than everyone around them and gives them permission to talk to people beneath their station so rudely.
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While the lower class minions will be content with their Walmart knockoffs we elite 1%ers demand only the best..... Peace, Spano ![[Linked Image]](http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/montanasam/A%202016/IMG_0019.jpg)
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There are plenty of ways to steal legally but not morally. If it's legal it ain't stealing. Period. I believe that the IRS *steals* our hard earned money from us. I believe able bodied welfare recipients *steal* our hard earned money from us. I believe local, state, and federal governments *steal* our hard earned money from us. The 'legality' of it doesn't mean Jack $ch!t.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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There are plenty of ways to steal legally but not morally. If it's legal it ain't stealing. Period. Remember that when some shyster cons your elderly mother into paying for a hugely overpriced item she doesn't need. But it's legal so it's ok, right? He's just a good salesman and your mother is an adult so it's ok, right? Don't tell me that if it's legal it's not stealing. This world is full of thieving scumsuckers who stay just inside the law as they steal people blind.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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