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I've dealt with chronic pain issues for decades. I thank God that I'm one of those people who really don't like the effects of opiates. There are times I'll dip into the pain meds, when I just need a break. But I know that A - I won't get "high" or any euphoric feeling. B - I'll get stomach cramps, C - Constipation, D - Irritability, E - Insomnia...and the list goes on.

I tried MJ as an alternative to opiates once...OMG that sucked!!! People find that pleasurable? I thought I was having a freaking heart attack.

I've found the best medicine is no medicine. 99% of the time, it's just not worth it.

I lost my Nephew a little over a year ago to drug addiction. OD'd on a cocktail of multiple drugs including heroin. I wish I could have a hunting license...

That's the kicker, they take this schit voluntarily, there is no one to blame but themselves and that takes the blame off of the medical industry as well.

When I had my back fusion done they had me on hydrocodone, I don't think I could have made it through the first two weeks without it. Two weeks was plenty and I put up with the pain after that.

I choose to quit and move on, how anyone could think this schit was a good idea is beyond me.

The sad part is, it's often someone rather young, who gets convince by their druggie friends that it's safe...you know, because they do it and they're still alive.

With street drugs you just don't know what you're getting. If you push 8-10mg of Heroin that's 60% pure, and then the next time you get lucky and get some 90% pure, you're in a lot of trouble.

This is exactly WHY we have an FDA.

But the econo-anarchists would say, "Hey, just don't buy from that guy anymore"...when you're dead, that's guaranteed.

Doc I probably should have used a different word than treat, I was talking about the patient who needs meds and doesn't want to risk addiction.

I took Percocet for 1 month prior to an epidural in my back, wrote it down every time it was taken, even though it quit working in 3 hours always waited the full 4 hours to take and never took more than prescribed daily amount.

The day of my 1st epidural about an hour prior I took the last one and 5-6 hours later broke out in shakes and sweats and completely soaked my clothes in sweat, felt like the flu for 2-3 days and then for a full week when walking the dog and tweaking my back a little I would get a nauseous feeling in my stomach as my body craved the meds and I was only on a 7.5mg dose I think.

Haven't taken one since and hope I don't ever need to, but that's how quick your body starts to develop an addiction whether your mind does or not.



Gunner

I went from gut wrenching pain that was quickly becoming unbearable, to gut wrenching pain that was basically bearable as long as I did nothing but sit still.



Mike

I broke my femur, the thigh bone, right in the knee in a logging accident. Came close to getting the leg amputated.
Doc put the femur back together with 4 screws. I was on crutches for 11 weeks.
But the surgery failed and I had to get total knee replacement.

Well, I have been injured plenty, had lots of stitches, broken ankle, broken wrist etc etc.
But the pain from these knee surgeries was through the roof.
They gave me a scrip for 10 mg Vicodin. I wanted Oxycontin, I figured, good enough for Rush, good enough for me.
But I got Vicodin. A big bottle and I could get refills.

After about 4 weeks on the Vicodin, I noticed it didn't do much for pain relief any more. Also I noticed I felt like hell all the time. Only, if I took a Vicodin I felt OK for about an hour.
Then I realized I was hooked on this stuff.
I said to hell with this stuff.
I mixed up a double gin and tonic. I popped a Vicodin and chased it with the gin and tonic.* Then I flushed the rest of the Vicodin down the toilet. I stayed away from the Vicodin after that, and made do with Tylenol and Motrin.
I must say, the Vicodin and gin is a very nice buzz and makes the pain go away.

*Do not try this at home. Can cause liver damage.

You were taking an opiate every 4 hours for a whole month. That is a schist ton of drugs sustained over a long period of time.

Folks think something is safe just because a doc gives it to them.

Maybe it was every 6 hrs I don't remember it's on the bottle either way was too much for me and I hope to never need them again.

Mike

The doctor who gave that prescription should hang up his license. He was blatantly and purposefully trying to get you hooked on drugs.

My sister who is 55 years old and suffering significantly from RA is now raising a step-great grandchild who is 3 or 4 years old.

Step-granddaughter caught into drugs, ultimatley heroin. Many opportunities to straighten up. Caught and arrested many times. My sister's husband paid over $10k for a rehab a year plus ago. She relapsed. Lost the kid and my sister and BIL are now attempting to raise a toddler. It is slowly killing both of them.

Yup. These kids grew up getting codeine cough syrup every time they got a runny nose and a family full of goof balls that think keeping pain meds laying around is okay. Taking the stuff that Dad says makes his back feel better is just not scary. Hell, half the addicts out there have no idea that they are, and as long as they can pay the bills, nobody is gonna try to convince them otherwise. Then one day, after they lose it all, they'll be worthless scumbags.

It is tough for a grandparent to find himself/herself in the position of surrogate parent when they are on the high side of 50, but the child is very lucky to have family members who care enough to step up and sacrifice themselves for the good of the child.