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How would this fare on a 22lr rifle?

Im conserned about the parralax when shooting at 30-100 meters.


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I wish this scope was made in a 6x.

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Ditto... and it was at one point.

They even made a small run of 1,5-6x42 a couple of years ago.


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Originally Posted by oldslowdog

I don't have a Leupold w/M1's but I do have one with CDS and I doubt the friction of the click adjustments are that much different between the two(M1's and CDS). I can tell you there is no comparison to the S&B


Having Leupolds with both a M1 and a CDS turret, there is a difference in the friction of the adjustments.

I'm saving up for a PMII 10x42 for my next rifle.....


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I did a little R&D this afternoon. No way 10X would cut it in the woods of the land of cotton. 6x could get plenty distance but in no way does it compare to 10x. At a little over 600 yards on 10x I could see brush in the line of sight that could not be seen on 6x. 10x really gave a much better sight picture at that distance, especially if the target was not in the open.

As much as I want to get away from a variable it definitely has advantages with my type of hunting down south.

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Originally Posted by ctsmith
I did a little R&D this afternoon. No way 10X would cut it in the woods of the land of cotton. 6x could get plenty distance but in no way does it compare to 10x. At a little over 600 yards on 10x I could see brush in the line of sight that could not be seen on 6x. 10x really gave a much better sight picture at that distance, especially if the target was not in the open.

As much as I want to get away from a variable it definitely has advantages with my type of hunting down south.
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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
I believe they are only available in mil/mil, with 13.0 mils of elevation travel(apprx 51 moa).


Is 13 mils after the zero stop is set or is it the total range of travel prior to setting zero stop? I am understanding it to be that once the ZS is set, it is limited to one rotation (13 mils).

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Depends on the rail you mount it on...
A bit different but...
I shoot a 5-25x56 PMII at 1000 yards every month.
For a 300 RSAUM running 210g Bergers at 2800 FPS my PMII needed 7.6 to 8 mils of UP,to be on at 1000.

The 10x PMII will get you to 1000 with ease.
I have both single turn and double turn S&Bs.
The single turn is bomb proof.


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If the data I'm looking at is correct, I think there are 25 mils of total adjustment. So if everything is aligned and zero is at the center of the adjustment range, there is 12.5 mils available for elevation which is close enough to the 13 mils allowed by the the ZS to not worry with 20 moa mounts. If your zero happens to be lower than center then 20 moa mounts would be required to get the most out of the 13 mil ZS range. If zero happens to be higher than center then you're good to go.

Does this sound correct?

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I dont have mine handy right at the moment but I would say yup.
I have a 300 Win Mag with a single turn 4-16x50 PMII.
I dont remember all the numbers now but with a zero mount I figurd I could get to 1300 yards max with it.
That being said I never tried it so it could have been some what less.
My 300 RSAUM has the 20 MOA mount.
No real reason not to use it.

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Originally Posted by 1pika
If you ordered talley mounts which ones (height) would you recommend for this scope?


1pika, because you are new here I going to help you.
The one's I would recommend are the one's here at my house. Send that scope on over and I'll fix it up. grin

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Could this be fit a Mauser action? The scope tube seems a bit to short on a long action Mauser...


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*old thread but best I could find on the search function for my question*

For a short action hunting rifle similar to the GAP NT setup to 600 yards for stand hunting whitetails (fields, cuts, roads, etc), spot and stalk mulies and antelope, I am debating between the fixed 10 S&B, and a NF 2.5-10x42 or NF 4-14x42. I have never considered the fixed 10 but see that it gets great reviews so I am asking for your thoughts on my choice. What am I gaining or losing with those choices? The cartridge will probably be a 6.5mm of some sort or a 7mm-08.

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I might drive out to look at a 10x PMII shortly. Seems to be very well regarded. I also must thank a few other posters on another thread for sharing their thoughts on S&B, NF, SWFA and others.

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As there are several PMII 10x42 users on this thread, perhaps one would be so kind as to advise me of the usable eye relief. I have read specifications of 3.3mm (must be wrong), 3.3 inches, 85mm (about 3.3 inches) and 3.7 inches (quite nice).

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I’m looking to buy one myself but can’t find any retailers that have one in stock. Has anyone come across one?

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Originally Posted by Paul4
I’m looking to buy one myself but can’t find any retailers that have one in stock. Has anyone come across one?


We spoke with S&B and can get them in 6-8 weeks. Let me know if you'd like to place an order


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Originally Posted by GrimJim
As there are several PMII 10x42 users on this thread, perhaps one would be so kind as to advise me of the usable eye relief. I have read specifications of 3.3mm (must be wrong), 3.3 inches, 85mm (about 3.3 inches) and 3.7 inches (quite nice).


90MM, or just a bit over 3.5"


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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Originally Posted by GrimJim
As there are several PMII 10x42 users on this thread, perhaps one would be so kind as to advise me of the usable eye relief. I have read specifications of 3.3mm (must be wrong), 3.3 inches, 85mm (about 3.3 inches) and 3.7 inches (quite nice).


90MM, or just a bit over 3.5"


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