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Originally Posted by teal
Whitworth1 - I know or believe you're a big Ruger pistol guy - what is the state of the 480 Ruger round?

I remember when it came out - IIRC it was touted as something more than a 44 Mag but not as brutal as the 454 Casull.

Then it seemed to disappear - don't remember the last time I read about it tho I've not really bought many rags lately.


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How's it bark compared to a 45 Colt? Frame of reference here - the 45 Colt is the largest I've touched off myself.


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Whitworth1 - I know or believe you're a big Ruger pistol guy - what is the state of the 480 Ruger round?

I remember when it came out - IIRC it was touted as something more than a 44 Mag but not as brutal as the 454 Casull.

Then it seemed to disappear - don't remember the last time I read about it tho I've not really bought many rags lately.


The 480 Riger us alive and well


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How's it bark compared to a 45 Colt? Frame of reference here - the 45 Colt is the largest I've touched off myself.


I shoot both and the 480 is quite manageable, especially if you're shooting the lighter (325 grain) weights in it. I have the 45 in both BH as well as RH and the 480 in SRH- a chopped 4" berrel, and a BFR. The BFR is no defensive revolver, but the abbreviated 480 is close to perfect for a double action in this caliber. Still, overall, my personal preference for an easy/always-carry, handy and readily manageable revolver, the 45 Blackhawk is my preference. But, as with any handgun capable of spitting 300+ grains at the speed of sound or better, one needs to shoot a lot more than a few of them regularly if you hope to stay on top of good control.


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I would have said 44 mag, then 10mm but now with recent developments, a 9mm.


Uhhhh, I have to point out that you ain't Phil.


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There's a whole thread on 458WIN's (Phil Shoemaker - Alaska Master Guide) defense of clients with a 9mm, that involves every conceivable commentary on what handgun to carry in Alaska.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/11373794/1

For self defense, I agree with Phil, deep penetration and fast shot-to-shot recovery.

That rules out most of the hand cannons displayed in this thread.

For purposeful hunting, they may be OK.

I've had almost every handcannon they make, and now carry a Glock 19 with the right ammo everywhere I go, including Alaska, where my company is based, and I visit often, and where I lived for 6 years.

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Originally Posted by teal
Whitworth1 - I know or believe you're a big Ruger pistol guy - what is the state of the 480 Ruger round?

I remember when it came out - IIRC it was touted as something more than a 44 Mag but not as brutal as the 454 Casull.

Then it seemed to disappear - don't remember the last time I read about it tho I've not really bought many rags lately.


It's doing quite well, particularly with Ruger releasing the Super Blackhawk in .480 last year. Loaded with heavy bullets it will get your attention, but it won't knock the snot out of you like a Casull loaded to spec. It is more of a heavy push. Great round.


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
I'd say it depends on if I was traveling alone


If so. The probably a big bore revolver.


If not then a simple 22 mag. Da revolver


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Originally Posted by teal
The Ruger Alaskan does make sense but that short barrel - are you getting much performance from it?



The short barreled Ruger Alaskan will break 1400 FPS with Winchester factory loaded 300 grain jacketed bullets. I'd say that's enough to git r done



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I carry whatever suits my fancy that day. It could be a Ruger Bisley in 41 or 44 mag, 45 Colt or 44 Special. It might be a Herters Powermag in 401 or 44. Just depends on my mood. I carry the Flattop Bisley 44 Special more than anything. It's loaded with Keith's load of 17 grains of 2400 and a 429421. I cast them 50/50 WW/lino. I haven't had to draw down on a bear. I did have to put a couple rounds in the dirt in front of a far too curious bull moose last year who kept advancing on me as I dressed a cow.


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I've carried a few different ones but have most recently settled on a S&W 69 loaded with 300gr WFNs at 1150. 98% of the time I'm carrying a rifle as well so the handgun is just a spare, more of a "get offa me" gun that kills a deer or three every year. It's a good policy since I mostly hunt alone.

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Glock 20 10 MM with 220 grain Buffalo Bores. I can shoot it better than my S&W model 29 in rapid fire.

Its also easier to grab and go with 3 loaded 15 round mags for a quick plane trip or boat ride.

One 10 MM 220 grain might not work but its got 14 friends.


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Originally Posted by smallfry
If you want a revolver a S&W 686 3" is nice, also a 629 4" regular or mountain gun. Living remote in AK I carried a lot of different guns, even a Redhawk. The heavier the gun the less likely you will want to carry it. I don't feel totally unarmed with a single action but I got into a horrible scrape when I missed very close with a SBH that lead me down a road of double actions and autos. I carry a Glock 23 often.


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Originally Posted by kk alaska
Glock 20 10 MM with 220 grain Buffalo Bores. I can shoot it better than my S&W model 29 in rapid fire.

Its also easier to grab and go with 3 loaded 15 round mags for a quick plane trip or boat ride.

One 10 MM 220 grain might not work but its got 14 friends.


That's exactly what I carry when bow hunting in bear country in the lower 48. With the Buffalo Bore 220 gr ammo, I don't feel it would be a bad choice for Alaska either.


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Originally Posted by FreeMe
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I'd say it depends on if I was traveling alone


If so. The probably a big bore revolver.


If not then a simple 22 mag. Da revolver


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Originally Posted by johnw
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I'd say it depends on if I was traveling alone


If so. The probably a big bore revolver.


If not then a simple 22 mag. Da revolver


grin


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Glock 20 10 MM with 220 grain Buffalo Bores. I can shoot it better than my S&W model 29 in rapid fire.

Its also easier to grab and go with 3 loaded 15 round mags for a quick plane trip or boat ride.

One 10 MM 220 grain might not work but its got 14 friends.


That's exactly what I carry when bow hunting in bear country in the lower 48. With the Buffalo Bore 220 gr ammo, I don't feel it would be a bad choice for Alaska either.
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obviously I don't live in Alaska, but were I to visit, I'd take this S&W .44 mag mountain gun that I already own. Load would be some of the 270 grain GDSP that I load for my Marlin 1894 rifle. It's a proven load on big hogs.
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Originally Posted by kk alaska
Glock 20 10 MM with 220 grain Buffalo Bores. I can shoot it better than my S&W model 29 in rapid fire.

Its also easier to grab and go with 3 loaded 15 round mags for a quick plane trip or boat ride.

One 10 MM 220 grain might not work but its got 14 friends.


This sounds like a very smart, well-reasoned choice.


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