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41 Special #11436207 09/14/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	I brought home a Taurus Tracker in 41 Magnum yesterday. Looks like it will make for a neat little revolver to amble about the woods with. When I got home to my ammo supply I found that only 1 of my 3 handloads was short enough to fit the cylinder. The 265 gr Cast Performance bullet (pictured left) is not a consideration for this revolver , they are already loaded in magnum brass & I have other 41s to shoot them in. The Sierra 210 gr (right) will work in the Taurus. The Lyman 210 (center) is an old design with a "long nose". I could make this one work in the Taurus IF I seated deeper & crimped it over the shoulder of the bullet , but I don't wanna do that. The Lyman is my go to bullet for my 41s , it's the only 41 mold that I have. So , my plan is to load the Lyman bullet in 41 Special cases for the Taurus. I ordered 500 Starline 41 Special cases. I will just make this one a dedicated 41 Special revolver. Anyone shooting the 41 Special ? , have any pet loads ? Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

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Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11436211 09/14/16
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,872 C CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter
CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter C Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,872	Got the same revolver, but never went heavier than the 210 grain cast. But it did not have the long nose as pictured. One thing I would add is that you might want to dump those stupid 'ribber grips' and get a set of Pachmyrs. Sure helps with heavy loads.

Re: 41 Special CrowRifle #11436231 09/14/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	I may change the grips , I'm not crazy about 'em myself. I don't really see me shooting many heavy loads in the Taurus , I have others for that. The Dan Wesson 41 & the Taurus 41 side by side Note the difference in cylinder length , 1.760 vs 1.580 Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11436259 09/14/16
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,872 C CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter
CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter C Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,872	The Taurus will handle them, and mine has about the sweetest trigger of any revolver I own including several Smith's. And the frame size is just about right for a .41 mag. The only thing I do not like is that it is ported.

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11436304 09/14/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	Yep...have a 4" titanium, a 6" titanium and a 4" stainless...all are great shooters. Cast bullets...since you cast your own take a look at the Accurate Molds #215V and 250F. I bought the 215V just for the Trackers and the Freedom Arms 97 that also has a short cylinder. I was so pleased with the bullet I asked the owner of Accurate to extend the shank another band and make it a 250 grain...and that became the 250F In a Magnum case in the short cylinder 97 These are the 250s at 50 yards..they cut clean round holes and the same at 100... 215V-250F-250L that will also fit in short cylinders http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=41-215V-D.png http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=41-250F-D.png .37 meplat...90%...can't get any bigger without being a wadcutter... I know that both Ron and Idaho Shooter have these guns and love them...great find... Bob If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

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Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11436581 09/14/16
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 28 B blackhawknj Campfire Greenhorn
blackhawknj Campfire Greenhorn B Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 28	I have a 4" S&W M-57, a 210 SWC over 7.5 grains of Unique has always worked great for me. Your reloads don't fit ? Have you measured your cases for stretching ?

Re: 41 Special blackhawknj #11436665 09/14/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	Originally Posted by blackhawknj Your reloads don't fit ? Have you measured your cases for stretching ? The cases are not too long. The bullets are too long , they are not what you'd call "standard". Either of the cast bullets seated to the crimp groove results in a cartridge that is over standard OAL. In most 41s it would not matter but the Taurus Tracker has a minimum length cylinder for the 41 Magnum cartridge. Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11436782 09/14/16
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,103 MonDak V viking Campfire Ranger
viking Campfire Ranger V Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,103 MonDak	Nice. One question though, does the double-action bust the caps? The 44 mag I had was a great single-action, sometimes it would function in DA.

Re: 41 Special viking #11436844 09/14/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	Originally Posted by viking Nice. One question though, does the double-action bust the caps? The 44 mag I had was a great single-action, sometimes it would function in DA. Uh , well , Idunno. I just got it yesterday & I have shot it exactly 25 times , all single action. I guess I'll test the double action tomorrow. Meantime I guess I'll lay awake tonight wondering. Thanks viking Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special viking #11436908 09/14/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	Originally Posted by viking Nice. One question though, does the double-action bust the caps? The 44 mag I had was a great single-action, sometimes it would function in DA. ...I have several hundred rounds through my three and almost all rounds have been DA..zero failures to fire.. Bob If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

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Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11437097 09/14/16
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,361 Cody, Wyoming Paladin Campfire Regular
Paladin Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,361 Cody, Wyoming	Curdog4570 has a .41 Tracker that is a shooting machine. Amazingly accurate way out there. How many obama supporters does it take to change a light bulb? None, they prefer to remain in the dark. The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place. George Bernard Shaw ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11437198 09/14/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona R RoninPhx Campfire Ranger
RoninPhx Campfire Ranger R Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona	i ordered a couple months ago the starline 41special brass, mainly as a project cause i can just download 41magnum. Kind of like the 44magnum vs. 41special thing. having said that, i have loaded a couple of boxes of 180 grain lead bullets in 41special but think i am going to increase the weight. they fit well both in the mentioned taurus and the 2.75inch ruger, both of which i thought were candidates. the taurus will not take the long bullets. THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11437237 09/14/16
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RoninPhx Campfire Ranger R Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona	i might kind of add why do any of this given you can download the 41magnum? Well among other things going from memory, the booklet with the gun says it can handle up to 1300fps, a 44special isn't gonna do that. and these taurus' in particular are really well built, light, easy to carry. I did't think i was gonna like that funky grip but it grows on you. i think the next bunch are going to be around 230grains at about 1000fps which i think would be about ideal. they revolver itself regardless of the slams against taurus like i said in my opinion is pretty well builts. I shouldn't admit to my cost in one, but it was a little over 200bucks. Try to find something like it in that dollar range. And it was new in the box. THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11437473 09/14/16
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,103 MonDak V viking Campfire Ranger
viking Campfire Ranger V Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 17,103 MonDak	I am not slamming them, I would buy another one if purchased for 200-300 bucks. I should have sent mine back to them to get fixed.

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11437475 09/14/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	The following are the loads I have been using in the .41 Specials: 200 gr. Remington JHP 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 978 fps 4" Tracker 1035 fps 6" Tracker 1036 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 230 gr. Keith 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 894 fps 4" Tracker 979 fps 6" Tracker 991 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 210 gr. LSWC 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 941 fps 4" Tracker 995 fps 6" Tracker 1005 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 200 gr. Remington JHP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 1031 fps 4" Tracker 170 gr. MeHic LHP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 1122 fps 4" Tracker 180 gr. MeHic LFP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP Primer 1136 fps 4" Tracker 1186 fps 6" Tracker 250 grain Keith (custom Lee mold) 7.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer Not chronographed yet. Load is used for a USFA 5.5" Clements Custom. Estimated 1050 from the 5.5" barrel 212 gr Keith LHP 7.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer Not chronographed yet Other loads I have used in the Trackers: .41 Magnum case 210 gr. Berry's Plated Bullet 8.0 gr. Unique Federal or Winchester LP primer 945 fps 4" Tracker .41 Magnum case Accurate Mold 41-215V weighs 205 gr. 8.0 Unique Winchester LP primer 1000 fps (S&W 657 4") .41 Magnum case Accurate Mold 41-250F weighs 250 gr. 8.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer 1015 fps (S&W 657 4") I also understand that Brian Pearce has a new article in HANDLOADER Magazine this month on the .41 Special. Bob Edit..the last load data has been removed as that was with a 210-220 Keith HP not the 180 MeHic...sorry about that. Last edited by RJM; 09/14/16. If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11437488 09/14/16
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,872 C CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter
CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter C Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,872	Good stuff. Thanks.

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11437776 09/14/16
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,683 Either Texas or Idaho E EdM Campfire 'Bwana
EdM Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,683 Either Texas or Idaho	I load a 215 gr SWC over six grains of Unique for my Single Six. Conduct is the best proof of character.

Re: 41 Special RJM #11438017 09/15/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	Originally Posted by RJM The following are the loads I have been using in the .41 Specials: 200 gr. Remington JHP 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 978 fps 4" Tracker 1035 fps 6" Tracker 1036 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 230 gr. Keith 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 894 fps 4" Tracker 979 fps 6" Tracker 991 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 210 gr. LSWC 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 941 fps 4" Tracker 995 fps 6" Tracker 1005 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 200 gr. Remington JHP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 1031 fps 4" Tracker 170 gr. MeHic LHP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 1122 fps 4" Tracker 180 gr. MeHic LFP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP Primer 1136 fps 4" Tracker 1186 fps 6" Tracker 250 grain Keith (custom Lee mold) 7.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer Not chronographed yet. Load is used for a USFA 5.5" Clements Custom. Estimated 1050 from the 5.5" barrel 212 gr Keith LHP 7.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer Not chronographed yet Other loads I have used in the Trackers: .41 Magnum case 210 gr. Berry's Plated Bullet 8.0 gr. Unique Federal or Winchester LP primer 945 fps 4" Tracker .41 Magnum case Accurate Mold 41-215V weighs 205 gr. 8.0 Unique Winchester LP primer 1000 fps (S&W 657 4") .41 Magnum case Accurate Mold 41-250F weighs 250 gr. 8.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer 1015 fps (S&W 657 4") I also understand that Brian Pearce has a new article in HANDLOADER Magazine this month on the .41 Special. Bob Edit..the last load data has been removed as that was with a 210-220 Keith HP not the 180 MeHic...sorry about that. That's some good stuff there RJM , Thanks for posting that. It's just what I was looking for , loads that approximate the old 41 Magnum police load but in the 41 Special case. Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special RJM #11438500 09/15/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona R RoninPhx Campfire Ranger
RoninPhx Campfire Ranger R Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona	Originally Posted by RJM The following are the loads I have been using in the .41 Specials: 200 gr. Remington JHP 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 978 fps 4" Tracker 1035 fps 6" Tracker 1036 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 230 gr. Keith 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 894 fps 4" Tracker 979 fps 6" Tracker 991 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 210 gr. LSWC 7.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 941 fps 4" Tracker 995 fps 6" Tracker 1005 fps 4 5/8" Ruger BH 200 gr. Remington JHP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 1031 fps 4" Tracker 170 gr. MeHic LHP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP primer 1122 fps 4" Tracker 180 gr. MeHic LFP 8.0 gr. Unique Federal LP Primer 1136 fps 4" Tracker 1186 fps 6" Tracker 250 grain Keith (custom Lee mold) 7.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer Not chronographed yet. Load is used for a USFA 5.5" Clements Custom. Estimated 1050 from the 5.5" barrel 212 gr Keith LHP 7.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer Not chronographed yet Other loads I have used in the Trackers: .41 Magnum case 210 gr. Berry's Plated Bullet 8.0 gr. Unique Federal or Winchester LP primer 945 fps 4" Tracker .41 Magnum case Accurate Mold 41-215V weighs 205 gr. 8.0 Unique Winchester LP primer 1000 fps (S&W 657 4") .41 Magnum case Accurate Mold 41-250F weighs 250 gr. 8.0 gr. Unique Winchester LP primer 1015 fps (S&W 657 4") I also understand that Brian Pearce has a new article in HANDLOADER Magazine this month on the .41 Special. Bob Edit..the last load data has been removed as that was with a 210-220 Keith HP not the 180 MeHic...sorry about that. pearce did a part one on 41special this month, part two comes in the next issue which is where the meat will probably be. part one was still good tho. THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO

Re: 41 Special RJM #11439527 09/15/16
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River ExpatFromOK Campfire Tracker
ExpatFromOK Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River	RJM, Is there anyone selling these bullets? They are pretty much exactly what I want for light and heavy .41 Mag loads, but I do not cast bullets. Thanks, Expat "There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11439550 09/15/16
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,192 down home in Dixie D Daverageguy Campfire Regular
Daverageguy Campfire Regular D Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,192 down home in Dixie	Think Grizzly cartridge out of Oregon does. Bangflop! another skinning job due to .260 and proper shot placement.

Re: 41 Special ExpatFromOK #11439632 09/16/16
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,683 Either Texas or Idaho E EdM Campfire 'Bwana
EdM Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,683 Either Texas or Idaho	Originally Posted by ExpatFromOK RJM, Is there anyone selling these bullets? They are pretty much exactly what I want for light and heavy .41 Mag loads, but I do not cast bullets. Thanks, Expat https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product-category/pistol/?filter_caliber=389 Conduct is the best proof of character.

Re: 41 Special Daverageguy #11440948 09/16/16
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River ExpatFromOK Campfire Tracker
ExpatFromOK Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River	Many thanks, Gents. "There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11441568 09/17/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	A couple questions for those of you who are loading the 41 Special. Do some brands of 41 Magnum crimp dies have to be shortened to crimp the 41 Special ? Do some brands of 41 Magnum crimp dies work as is with the 41 Special ? Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11441630 09/17/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona R RoninPhx Campfire Ranger
RoninPhx Campfire Ranger R Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona	I finally broke down, and they are inexpensive, and bought a lee crimp die, rather than trying to roll crimp them. Works just fine. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/133484/lee-carbide-factory-crimp-die-41-remington-magnum Last edited by RoninPhx; 09/17/16. THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11441635 09/17/16
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi F Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker
Fanofthefortyone Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,624 South Mississippi	Some info here, http://singleactions.proboards.com/thread/18078/41-special-eat-crow-again I had a RCBS crimp die shortened by a local machine shop for mine. Ronnie

Re: 41 Special Fanofthefortyone #11441648 09/17/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona R RoninPhx Campfire Ranger
RoninPhx Campfire Ranger R Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona	Originally Posted by Fanofthefortyone Some info here, http://singleactions.proboards.com/thread/18078/41-special-eat-crow-again I had a RCBS crimp die shortened by a local machine shop for mine. Ronnie that's the enabler, rjm, posting over there too. THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO

Re: 41 Special RoninPhx #11441764 09/17/16
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,683 Either Texas or Idaho E EdM Campfire 'Bwana
EdM Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,683 Either Texas or Idaho	Originally Posted by RoninPhx I finally broke down, and they are inexpensive, and bought a lee crimp die, rather than trying to roll crimp them. Works just fine. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/133484/lee-carbide-factory-crimp-die-41-remington-magnum That's what I use after knocking out the carbide ring. Conduct is the best proof of character.

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11441884 09/17/16
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 31,231 Ogden, Utah RockyRaab Campfire 'Bwana
RockyRaab Campfire 'Bwana Joined: May 2003 Posts: 31,231 Ogden, Utah	I did a detailed article on the .41 Special years ago. John Taffin was a big fan of the round, too. googlefu us I had my RCBS dies shortened to be able to crimp but many crimp dies made since then are made short enough to be Special/Mag. Sizers, of course, need no change. Once you start shooting .41 Specials you may never torch off a Mangelum again. It's a great round. Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.

Re: 41 Special ExpatFromOK #11442401 09/17/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	Originally Posted by ExpatFromOK RJM, Is there anyone selling these bullets? They are pretty much exactly what I want for light and heavy .41 Mag loads, but I do not cast bullets. Thanks, Expat ..sorry I did not get back to you sooner but I was camping... No, no commercial caster I know of makes that exact same bullet but the LBT WFN bullets made by MBW are probably better. The meplat is only .04" smaller and in the long range testing I've done a little more accurate. No animal hit by the two bullets, going the same velocity, in the same place will know the difference. Rocky...is there a link to your article somewhere? I and several others have searched but come up empty... Thanks..Bob If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

Re: 41 Special viking #11443027 09/17/16
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,036 Wetside, WA 4 41rem Campfire Regular
41rem Campfire Regular 4 Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,036 Wetside, WA	Originally Posted by viking I am not slamming them, I would buy another one if purchased for 200-300 bucks. I should have sent mine back to them to get fixed. I don't think Taurus will fix them. I passed on a lightly used stainless Tracker in 41 mag for that reason. 41 We deal in lead, friend.

Re: 41 Special 41rem #11443098 09/17/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	Taurus has a lifetime guaranty...why would they not fix one. I had a cylinder binding issue twice with my 4" Titanium Tracker long after they were discontinued...went back both times on their dime and have had zero issues after the second repair... The repair time isn't quick as they are shipped back to Brazil for repair. Took it this weekend camping... Bob If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

Re: 41 Special EdM #11444101 09/18/16
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,909 Quaker Valley 2 257_X_50 Campfire Tracker
257_X_50 Campfire Tracker 2 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,909 Quaker Valley	Originally Posted by EdM I load a 215 gr SWC over six grains of Unique for my Single Six. First gun I'm gonna build when I retire. If I drank more I might wake up with a tattoo of that revolver..........

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11446047 09/19/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona R RoninPhx Campfire Ranger
RoninPhx Campfire Ranger R Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,000 arizona	here is a interesting thread from six years ago on the 41, and some in that thread are still here. Lot's of good stuff. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...75954/all/41_Special_will_there_be_any_f THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11446981 09/19/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	I got my 41 Special brass today. I found that my Lyman 41 Magnum die will work to crimp the 41 Special , no alteration of the die needed. The 41 Special brass should also aid the ejector a bit , 41 Magnum brass doesn't always want to fall free of the Taurus cylinder. Now I need to get busy & cast a batch of those "long nose" SWCs Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11448531 09/20/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	Had some time today to do some reloading so after finishing a batch of 10mm decided to make up some woods walking loads for the Trackers using Special brass... The Accurate 41-215V weighs 210 grains lubed and sized. The standard load in a Magnum case is 8.0 grains for mid-900 from a 4" barrel. 7.0 in a Special case produces the same but wanted a load to be going between 1000-1050 so bumped it up to 8.0 in the Special case. 4" Titanium Tracker.. The bullet will fit in the short cylinder even in a Magnum case but this will give the same velocity and no problem if there is any bullet pull.. Bob If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11448532 09/20/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	Gun fits perfectly in a L-Frame DeSantis Speed Scabbard.. Extra ammo...one for the belt and one for the pocket.. TUFF Speed Strip in a belt carrier I got from Dillon.. Speed Strip in a REMORA accessory pouch.. Ammo is the now discontinued C.O.P. all copper HPs and the Federal/Barnes copper HPs.. If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11448616 09/20/16
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,082 Etna, Wyoming S Snake River Marksman Campfire Tracker
Snake River Marksman Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,082 Etna, Wyoming	I think I know the answer but I'll ask anyway: Why did Taurus make those revolvers with a short cylinder? Weight Savings? Stupidity is expensive If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Re: 41 Special Snake River Marksman #11449049 09/20/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	...I don't think so... But I have no clue why... I do know that Taurus doesn't recommend "heavy" loads in the .41 or .44... When the cylinder started binding I was shooting 175 Silvertip ammo. When I called and explained the problem the CS rep said that Silvertips were "full loads". When I tried to explain to him that they were one of the lowest pressure .41 rounds made as they were for self-defense use he didn't believe me. My three... Compared to a FA 97... These guns are perfect for the .41 Special and .44 Special as they are built tough enough to handle Magnums. Another real sleeper in the same gun in .45 ACP... I have one in stainless and it is a hell of a shooter... 15 rounds DA at 10 yards.. Not sure if they made the .45 in titanium or not... Bob ps...one other thought on the "short cylinder"...it really isn't technically speaking... ALL the standard factory loads will chamber in a Tracker except the heavy 265 cast loads from some of the specialty makers....all others chamber and function fine...even the Federal and CorBon 250s because they are both made with a LBT WFN bullet... It is only when one gets into a real Keith bullet (not a SWC like a Magma) or LBT LN that they won't fit... If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11450355 09/21/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	I have a box of those 250gr Cor Bons. I think maybe Cor Bon discontinued that load , I don't see it listed on their website. I have no doubt the Tracker could handle them but I expect it would be more fun for me to shoot them in the Dan Wesson or my Contender. Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11450420 09/21/16
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA R RJM Campfire Outfitter
RJM Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,920 Rochester, N.H. USA	The Federal CastCore uses the same bullet but is a much milder load...only 1080 from a 4" barrel. Went out this morning and shot the 215V/8.0 Unique load through the Tracker and the FA97...acuuracy was excellent and very mild recoil... If I can figure out how to get the pics from the phone transferred over to Photobucket I'll post them.. Bob If you can not deal with reality, reality will deal with you....

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11453994 09/22/16
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 25,847 West Treasure Valley, Idaho I Idaho_Shooter Campfire Ranger
Idaho_Shooter Campfire Ranger I Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 25,847 West Treasure Valley, Idaho	Yes, I have the titanium model. My hands will not let me shoot anything hotter than a 210 at 1000 fps through it. But actually I usually shoot much slower loads. My loads often consist of 41 Special loads loaded in magnum brass to Special COAL. Never a problem with cylinder length. People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11455381 09/23/16
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 31,231 Ogden, Utah RockyRaab Campfire 'Bwana
RockyRaab Campfire 'Bwana Joined: May 2003 Posts: 31,231 Ogden, Utah	I'm sorry that when I took down my website, all my reproduced articles went away, also. I still have the written version of it archived here somewhere but no photos. Not sure now where it originally ran, either. It would be too long to post here, I think. If anybody is interested, PM me with your email and I'll attach it to a reply. Edit to add: Found the article with load data table and have it ready to email. Last edited by RockyRaab; 09/23/16. Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11455454 09/23/16
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,660 NW Nevada GunGeek Campfire Ranger
GunGeek Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,660 NW Nevada	I'd love to have a .41 Titanium Tracker. One of the best revolvers Taurus ever made.

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11455474 09/23/16
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,660 NW Nevada GunGeek Campfire Ranger
GunGeek Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,660 NW Nevada	Originally Posted by 6mm250 Hey your boolits are rusting...I crack myself up.

Re: 41 Special GunGeek #11455584 09/23/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	Originally Posted by GunGeek Originally Posted by 6mm250 Hey your boolits are rusting...I crack myself up. Yeah , I need to shoot'em up before they go bad ! Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11456668 09/23/16
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC 6mm250 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP 6mm250 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,065 Croatan NC	A lineup of 41s with the long & short nose wadcutters for comparison OALs are L to R 1.456 1.542 1.590 1.655 The Specials are loaded with 7gr of Unique powder. The magnum cases are loaded with 8gr of Unique powder. The first three will work in the Tracker , the last one is too long. Mike Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff. Jerry Miculek

Re: 41 Special 6mm250 #11456910 09/23/16
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,246 Texarkana T Texczech Campfire Tracker
Texczech Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,246 Texarkana	Tag Molɔ̀ːn Labé Grandpa:the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Dad:son you have 2 choices for supper eat or don't eat.

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