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Re: WLR primer. hunting1 #11431830 09/12/16
Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA Y Yondering Campfire Tracker
Yondering Campfire Tracker Y Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,755 Skagit County, WA	Originally Posted by hunting1 I have had 2-misfires with WLRM primers and 300WSM out of like 200 so far, same box. Misfires are a different and unrelated problem. The issue being discussed here is that the primer cups crack, allowing hot gas to erode the bolt face.

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Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11431845 09/12/16
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38,822 South of Minnesota 5sdad Campfire 'Bwana
5sdad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38,822 South of Minnesota	I talked to Kristen earlier this year and sent back what I had, even though I had not experienced any problems. The whole thing was handled very well by them and I got a check that more than covered replacing the ones that I sent in. Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile. Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe) Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11431937 09/12/16
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 14,481 North Texas RiverRider Campfire Outfitter
RiverRider Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 14,481 North Texas	I'm using the LRMs in my .264, and I've not had a misfire or leak as of yet...a misfire I can handle, but not a gas leak! Don't be the darkness. America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11432890 09/12/16
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 10,766 Good Life Esox357 Campfire Outfitter
Esox357 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 10,766 Good Life	Winchester Primer Leakage Lot # CAL401G CLL555G DAL594G DFL717G DHL766G DNL 837G DNL836G EAL234G GDL225G GEL250G These were a few I had that were noted, I believe from Mule Deer's list?

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11464937 09/27/16
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 214 B billtrev Campfire Member
billtrev Campfire Member B Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 214	Add another lot # to the list- CML571G Third shot fired from a brand new Remington SPS in 260... Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

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Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11465038 09/27/16
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,340 K kraky111 Campfire Tracker
kraky111 Campfire Tracker K Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,340	I'm the proud owner of four cavities in two rifles. All from wlr primers. I didn't know what was happening until I blew an extractor off my Marlin XL7. I've seen Lot number lists a quite a bit longer than what was posted above. Personally I think Winchester knows at what point in time they cheapened up the thickness of their cup and when they fixed it. It kind of feels to me like they're playing coy with people reporting lot numbers and acting like they're cooperating.... when really I think there should be a huge recall. Ill never use Winchester primers again.

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11465776 09/27/16
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA O Otter6 OP Campfire Regular
OP Otter6 Campfire Regular O Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA	Ive been working away,but put Sharon's number in my phone. Ill be giving her a holler when I get home. Thanks for the info everyone. "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11465805 09/27/16
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,399 Corpus Christi,Texas baldhunter Campfire Tracker
baldhunter Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,399 Corpus Christi,Texas	Went to Winchesters website and filed a claim with a list of all the lots I have.My two suspects are lots DFL194G and DLL219G.These are WLRM primers.I think I may have bought these in 2008.I had three blow out in one day and that was enough for me to file a claim this week.I've had an occasional one blow out and I just blew it off.I suspect some are blowing out inside the primer pocket just causing soot around the primer.I've been discarding that brass thinking it was loose primer pockets.I've got a few burns on my bolt faces too.It wasn't a big deal at first,but it starts adding up after awhile.I haven't noticed any accuracy problems from it,just cosmetic.Winchester notified me that they have receive my claim. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11465814 09/27/16
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,313 Colorado D Dustylongshot Campfire Regular
Dustylongshot Campfire Regular D Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,313 Colorado	I have about 500 factory primed 264 Win Mag cases and a like amount of 257 Roberts cases. All are WW brand that I purchased from the classifieds here on the fire. Those 264 cases leaked twice in the first 50 loaded so I deprimed the lot and reprimed with 215M's when I load. The 257 leaked as well and I also deprimed the lot. I use the old silver WLR's now when I load these. I fired these 264's in my EW Model 70 and the stainless steel bolt was not pitted, just a soot mark. I was lucky.

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11466204 09/28/16
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky lastround Campfire Tracker
lastround Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,518 Western Kentucky	I no longer use Winchester primers of any kind. Switched to CCI or Federal in everything I load. No more problems with messed-up bolt faces. I also switched out all my handgun primers, just in case. Just me......... If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice. Doug

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Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11467352 09/28/16
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA O Otter6 OP Campfire Regular
OP Otter6 Campfire Regular O Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA	Just checked my lot. #CNL584G. Ill be calling Winny tomorrow. "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11467660 09/28/16
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807 Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter
Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	What's the lot # of yours? Are they plated with nickel color or just the natural brass color? Are yours undersize? The WLR and WLRM primers I have are undersize in diameter and fit loose in good brass! They may have forgotten removing plating from an outside surface specification removes diameter! The WLR are Lot No DNL 836G The WLRM are Lot No DLL 212G To add their diameters are 0.2097" Last edited by Savage_99; 09/28/16.

Re: WLR primer. kraky111 #11467713 09/28/16
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,943 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana
bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,943 Battle Born	Originally Posted by kraky111 I'm the proud owner of four cavities in two rifles. All from wlr primers. I didn't know what was happening until I blew an extractor off my Marlin XL7. I've seen Lot number lists a quite a bit longer than what was posted above. Personally I think Winchester knows at what point in time they cheapened up the thickness of their cup and when they fixed it. It kind of feels to me like they're playing coy with people reporting lot numbers and acting like they're cooperating.... when really I think there should be a huge recall. Ill never use Winchester primers again. I'll use up some of my old primers, but never buy anymore Winchester primers as well. I still need to call on the brick or WLRM's I have... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: WLR primer. baldhunter #11467717 09/28/16
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,943 Battle Born B bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana
bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 47,943 Battle Born	Originally Posted by baldhunter Went to Winchesters website and filed a claim with a list of all the lots I have.My two suspects are lots DFL194G and DLL219G.These are WLRM primers.I think I may have bought these in 2008.I had three blow out in one day and that was enough for me to file a claim this week.I've had an occasional one blow out and I just blew it off.I suspect some are blowing out inside the primer pocket just causing soot around the primer.I've been discarding that brass thinking it was loose primer pockets.I've got a few burns on my bolt faces too.It wasn't a big deal at first,but it starts adding up after awhile.I haven't noticed any accuracy problems from it,just cosmetic.Winchester notified me that they have receive my claim. Will they allow you to file a claim on primers that are not on their lot # list???? Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11468055 09/28/16
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,399 Corpus Christi,Texas baldhunter Campfire Tracker
baldhunter Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,399 Corpus Christi,Texas	Here is the Winchester link to file a claim.You can add pictures too. http://www.winchester.com/Product-Service/Pages/Contact-Us.aspx ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11469387 09/29/16
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA O Otter6 OP Campfire Regular
OP Otter6 Campfire Regular O Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,315 PA	UPS is coming tomorrow to pick up my 800 primers. They seemed quite concerned about any remaining rounds I might have loaded. I pulled the four still on hand after the rupture,and pushed out the WLRs. Paperwork concerning the bolt face to follow. We'll see I guess. Better than digging a hole for the damn things. "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11469578 09/29/16
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,243 IN buckhunterbb Campfire Regular
buckhunterbb Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,243 IN	Has there been any problems with their small/large pistol primers?

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11512889 10/18/16
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,499 Sierra Vista, AZ Hawk_Driver Campfire Tracker
Hawk_Driver Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,499 Sierra Vista, AZ	You an add lot ELL078G to the list as well. Last round in a box of 50 blew a big pinhole in the primer. There is no way to coexist no matter how many bumper stickers there are on Subaru bumpers!

Re: WLR primer. Otter6 #11513016 10/18/16
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,499 Sierra Vista, AZ Hawk_Driver Campfire Tracker
Hawk_Driver Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,499 Sierra Vista, AZ	Emailed them, got a call back about 20 minutes later. They are sending UPS to pick up the case and told me to get a quote on repairing the bolt face. Gotta say, the Ruger handled the gas pretty good. Felt a puff on the face, but a ton of smoke was coming out thru the trigger. There is no way to coexist no matter how many bumper stickers there are on Subaru bumpers!

Re: WLR primer. Hawk_Driver #11513041 10/18/16
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 28,364 Idaho, USA Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger
Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 28,364 Idaho, USA	I called Sharon early last week about two bricks of WLR I bought within the last year or two. Have never used any of them and she never said if the lot numbers were included in the known bad ones but I didn't want to take a chance. They are sending packing material and a label and will arrange for UPS to pick them up, then will send me a check. She didn't say how much the check would be for but they're taking them back no questions asked so I'm not going to quibble. Lot # CLL 563G and DGL 750G. Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!

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