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just curious because many say the bullet is already "pre-expanded" 
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I carry 230gr ball in my "tractor" 1911. I never know what I'll encounter on remote ranches that I do brush control on. In S. Texas, it could be anything from a wetback to a coyote, or rattler. Seems to work for me. But, I try and hit stuff where it ought to be hit...  Got a deal on Herter's .45acp from Cabela's picked up 1200 rounds of it. Good ammo. ![[Linked Image]](http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/rockinbbar/1911pig_zpszj9xlded.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/rockinbbar/rattler_zpshggbzw4f.jpg) Same pistola, just changed the grips out.
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No... I don't use a mil spec 1945 era 1911.
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just curious because many say the bullet is already "pre-expanded" I try not to. Sometimes some clips with ball might get taken along though. I generally try to use hot hollowpoints.
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For my personal carry Colt 1911, I have 8 rounds +1 of Hydroshoks waiting for the "go button".
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like Barry, on the ranch it is stoked with ball. extra mags are filled with golddots......
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I usually load ball in my 1911s because I still have a ton of it around. Bob ![[Linked Image]](http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii27/RobertOIF2/DSC_2730_zpst9yyivrx.jpg)
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Gold Dots, but there are usually a couple mags of ball around for goofing off.
I have found the even 200 grain lead semi wadcutters do substantially better at killing stuff than ball ammo.
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just curious because many say the bullet is already "pre-expanded" Sure, but due to bullet shape, it doesn't do .45 caliber worth of damage. Those bullets tend to slip on through, unlike an expanding round, or even a flat nose, large meplat, round. I wouldn't carry that unless it was all I had. Adequate, but far from ideal.
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I carry 230gr ball in my "tractor" 1911. I never know what I'll encounter on remote ranches that I do brush control on. In S. Texas, it could be anything from a wetback to a coyote, or rattler. Seems to work for me. But, I try and hit stuff where it ought to be hit... Got a deal on Herter's .45acp from Cabela's picked up 1200 rounds of it. Good ammo. Same pistola, just changed the grips out. That is great. I've found the 1911 to be a decent critter-getter myself over the years... sort of a 45 LC Lite. I carried ball exclusively in the sticks and I never swapped mags when going to town. It's pretty well established as a hash-settler.
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I personally think the FMJ round that was designed in 1904 has been improved upon over the past 112 years.
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I carry ball....on the farm, in a Governor. Most of the time it's the shot shells that get the call but so far ball has worked well on a groundhog and possum.
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Gold Dots, but there are usually a couple mags of ball around for goofing off.
I have found the even 200 grain lead semi wadcutters do substantially better at killing stuff than ball ammo. This, this, and this.^
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Never carried ball, but am a big fan of 200 gr swc's. I've got a couple mags with Rem golden sabers in them, but everything else is 200 gr swc.
I do still wish I had some of the WWII surplus ball ammo my father had that we shot through his fathers WWI 1911. Well, I really wish I had the gun, but am glad my brother is enjoying it.
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Here on the ranch I carry ball and 2 mags of gold dot.ball will do the job on the stuff I run into most of the time.Rio7
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200 grain H&G 68 and copies make a great small game load too, but you gotta have a saber-tooth rat dog backing you up. ![[Linked Image]](http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x187/SargeMO/STRDnME.jpg)
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7+1 of Hydroshoks in the Commander, 2 back up mags of plain old G.I. Ball..
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I only use ball for shooting paper and pop-ups. I shot a few magazines full at bowling pins at Quemado this year, and the results reminded me why I don't carry it for personal protection.
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Gold Dots, but there are usually a couple mags of ball around for goofing off.
I have found the even 200 grain lead semi wadcutters do substantially better at killing stuff than ball ammo. I don't load the 45ACP(yet) but I see magtech loads the 200 grain LSWC!!!
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Mostly shoot 200 SWC but, when too lazy to do the casting routine, revert back to FMJ.
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