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Originally Posted by powdr
I hope we don't get it in Texas. powdr
It's actually been confirmed in a few mule deer just south of the New Mexico line near White Sands Missile Range. The only confirmed cases in New Mexico are from WSMR and the adjacent Organ Mountains.

Since there are no cases north of there in New Mexico, I am pretty sure that someone was transporting mule deer from Colorado to a captive breeding facility in Texas. I suspect that by the time they got to southern New Mexico, they noticed that they had some sick animals. They either pulled off of I 25 south of Las Cruces or went over San Augustin Pass and kicked them out on the missile range.

The first ones that were seen had wandered into the housing areas and were actually leaning up against buildings, so they were acclimated to people. Naturally, they interacted with native deer before they died, and we now have a population in Dona Ana and Otero counties in New Mexico, and in the adjacent counties in to the south in west Texas that have infected animals.


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Originally Posted by mudhen

The first ones that were seen had wandered into the housing areas and were actually leaning up against buildings, so they were acclimated to people. Naturally, they interacted with native deer before they died, and we now have a population in Dona Ana and Otero counties in New Mexico, and in the adjacent counties in to the south in west Texas that have infected animals.


I'm sorry to hear this and especially 'how' it came to you!! IMO that's pretty sorry of someone to do that. I know, $$$ but that's a blatant disregard for deer etc.


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Originally Posted by jwall
LOOK What I Noticed--- Posted on P 7


Originally Posted by jwall
AGFC released this yesterday 4-19-16 ?

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Including the sampled area, the AGFC has received results of 82 animals with the disease. A total of 648 wild animals (619 white-tailed deer and 29 elk) have been sampled since laboratory results confirmed the disease Feb. 23, 2016. 79 deer and three elk were found to be positive.
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82 animals confirmed w/CWD
619 WT--tested
29 Elk -tested

79 WT diseased
***ONLY Three Elk***diseased! ! ! YIIP...PEEE .. smile smile


From yesterday:
To date, 82 cases of CWD have been found in Arkansas deer and four more in elk.
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82 cases in WT

+ 4 MORE in elk
..................86 TOTAL cases//// 7 Elk total


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BUMP --
This is posted on P 8 of this thread.

86 Total cases -- 7 Elk total


Nothing new has been released by AGFC since, AFAIK
--statistical--


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So you know what your dealing with.. Its no joke best to know your enemy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease


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I talked with a long time friend & hunting partner this morning. Each Fall he and his wife go to Newton Co. Ar, the heart of the CWD core area. They go and spend the weekend watching ELK as they feed and interact with with each other.

While there one evening, there were many elk, bulls and cows in the area they were watching. While watching the Elk he saw a Doe W T come thru some tall gras in the field. She walked slowly up to the fence - not hi fence - turned and walked away from them. He took his binos and checked out the doe. He could count every rib and see the backbone very well.

She came reasonably close to people on the road who were also watching Elk. She turned around and came back the same way she had gone. As she approached my friends, he could see drool, saliva, streaming from her mouth as long as he could see her.

She 'never' took one bite of grass or anything else.

Aside and worse than the doe being diseased, she was RIGHT THERE with a good sized herd of Elk.

My friend said there were about 14 bulls of different sizes and about 30 cows and yearlings. He said the BIG bulls really put on a show sparring and fighting. They had a good time except for seeing that sick doe.

-- this was on Private Property and only a limited no. of elk permits are allocated for Private Land. --

sick sick
cry cry


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That can't be good.

Monday just before daylight coyotes took down that yearling buck that was hanging around. Haven't seen anymore that are showing the disease.

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Well I found this chart that has been recently posted. I notice they say 5 (five) cases of CWD have been 'confirmed' in ELK.

As I followed this earlier it seems the total was 7 (seven) so I don't know what changed.

The following info from AGFC.com and they dated it Sept.23, 2016

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Approved Chronic Wasting Disease Regulations
Map of CWD samples taken through Sept. 23, 2016. Click on image for larger view.
Positive CWD cases found as of Sept. 23, 2016
County CWD-positive deer CWD-positive elk

Newton 94 5
Boone 5 0
Carroll 3 0
Madison 1 0
Pope 1 0
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So what happens when the coyote poops out the CWD infected deer it ate? What about the prions in the soil where it laid? The prions are the real problem, and there's no known way to get rid of them.

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Here's what CWD has done to hunting and land values in MO:

http://www.deeranddeerhunting.com/articles/cwd-fears-overshadow-outdoor-event

You can expect the same when (not if) it gets to your area.

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An update, one of the people interviewed has sold his deer hunting property and stays in Jefferson City, MO now that he and others like him ruined the deer hunting by doing the MO DNR's bidding and killing 21 deer in four days.

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Must be part of the reason there has been extra interest in hunting property down here in my area. Always ask who is interested ,answer is always "someone from up north". Guess they don't realize the problem will be here also!!!

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Hunters are like fisherman. They always think there's some secret lure, bait or spot that will be a private goose that lays the golden eggs. It's just not going to happen. This is a country wide issue. If an area does not have it, they will. It is already in many places, it just has not been discovered-yet. Yes, you will have it by you. It is in Arkansas and heading North.

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Carl -

It was in Mo. before diagnosed in Ar.

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I'm referring to Southern MO. Everyone made like it was only in the North. It's in the North headed South and South headed North. Maybe it was discovered in MO first, who knows? Not going to try and split that hair.

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carlm - And I'm NOT trying to split hairs either. I posted the following pic on P 4, 3-24-16. AT that time CWD was not identified in Ark. at/on wikipedia--CWD.

I'm not referring to South Mo, just in general.

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I found the pic of the Nat'l map per CWD.
This pic is FROM -**Wikipedia>>Chronic wasting disease **

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My response was to Mohick who is in MO. Is Arkansas next to Southern MO? Where did I say it was in Arkansas before Missouri?

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Originally Posted by carlm
My response was to Mohick who is in MO. Is Arkansas next to Southern MO? Where did I say it was in Arkansas before Missouri?

Originally Posted by carlm

Yes, you will have it by you. It is in Arkansas and heading North.


Maybe my interpretation ?

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No problem here either. Did not mean to offend anyone. CWD is everyones problem.

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BUMPED this thread for INFO per MI bans baiting:

IF you start on P 1 there is a lot of INFO per CWD in this thread.


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