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My carry ammo is 165 grn Corbon Pow'R Ball. It gives great expansion and velocity about equal to a 9mm with all the feeding characteristics of ball ammo.

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
I personally think the FMJ round that was designed in 1904 has been improved upon over the past 112 years.


This.


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I don't, but wouldn't lose much sleep over it if that was all I had available to use.

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Originally Posted by Joe
Mostly shoot 200 SWC but, when too lazy to do the casting routine, revert back to FMJ.


While I would like a sharper shoulder on the nose, in a six cavity mold the Lee 200 gr tl swc is tough to be too lazy to cast as it doesn't take long to drain a 10# furnace neither does giving them a quick tumble lube and overnight dry.

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Originally Posted by jimmyp
just curious because many say the bullet is already "pre-expanded" smile


I carry three spare 10 shot mags of 230 gr fmj flat point bullets for my 1911 45, thought is, if you have to exhaust your 1st mag of hp's a man may need the added barrier penetration the fmj-fp's can provide.

Mine run around 950 fps.


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I wouldn't stress out if that's all I had.


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"pre-expanded", huh? I cast my own and am certainly not offended if my bullet gets a little "further expansion".

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
I don't, but wouldn't lose much sleep over it if that was all I had available to use.

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THIS.

The biggest factor in a gunfight is going to be where you place the bullets, no which bullets you used.

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I would rather have target LSWCs instead of ball. Ball is just about the worst terminal performance for the cartridge.

I understand using ball in the POC pistols that couldn't chamber anything else. But I don't carry one of those.

My favorite bullet is the Hornady XTP - I prefer 185gr going at least 1000fps.

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Yep, I am going to order a couple boxes of that magtech 200 grain LSWC, and if they work will carry those. I get the Fed HST etc, but the LSWC is not a bad bullet for the money.


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I use ball when roaming around in the field just rock and stump shooting. Hunting and Self Defense HP's only


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Originally Posted by GunGeek
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
I don't, but wouldn't lose much sleep over it if that was all I had available to use.

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THIS.

The biggest factor in a gunfight is going to be where you place the bullets, no which bullets you used.


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Originally Posted by USSR1991
"pre-expanded", huh? I cast my own and am certainly not offended if my bullet gets a little "further expansion".

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Those are quite impressive looking. You make those for own use or is this from a business?

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I carry Hydroshoks, but have just picked up 500 of Berry's 200gr plated SWC. We'll see how they shoot ~1,000fps. grin

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Originally Posted by FAIR_CHASE
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"pre-expanded", huh? I cast my own and am certainly not offended if my bullet gets a little "further expansion".

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Those are quite impressive looking. You make those for own use or is this from a business?


Yeah, I cast them for myself during the winter months. With the bullet being the most expensive component, I find I can reload my handgun cartridges for cheaper than I can buy .22 rimfire ammo.

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Originally Posted by dla
I would rather have target LSWCs instead of ball. Ball is just about the worst terminal performance for the cartridge.

I understand using ball in the POC pistols that couldn't chamber anything else. But I don't carry one of those.

My favorite bullet is the Hornady XTP - I prefer 185gr going at least 1000fps.
Actually, any 1911 should be able to feed 230 grain hollow points, so long as the bullet's ogive is the same as a FMJ ball round. My 1961 Colt Government model, for example, feeds any popular 230 grain hollow point.

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush

I have found the even 200 grain lead semi wadcutters do substantially better at killing stuff than ball ammo.


I've found the same thing. Even at a measly 650 fps (not that I'm recommending that) they're still more effective than ball.

There are several bullet styles besides hollow points I'll rely on in pistols, but ball isn't one of them. I guess I don't understand why anyone would intentionally choose the worst performance they could get, other than just being really cheap.

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Originally Posted by 458 Lott
Originally Posted by Joe
Mostly shoot 200 SWC but, when too lazy to do the casting routine, revert back to FMJ.


While I would like a sharper shoulder on the nose, in a six cavity mold the Lee 200 gr tl swc is tough to be too lazy to cast as it doesn't take long to drain a 10# furnace neither does giving them a quick tumble lube and overnight dry.


Try the regular lube groove version instead of the TL design. There are no disadvantages, and it shoots better and has a sharper shoulder. Lee ought to drop that 200gr TL SWC from their line, IMO, as there's no reason to choose it over the other 200 SWC.

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Ball for practice and fun, HydraShock 230 grain for serious work. Almost all of my carry time with a 1911, is with my Series 70 Combat Commander.
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I have only used .230 gr. FMJ in my 1911 and Glock 21, it is cheaper to buy, and proven in combat. I don't hand load for the caliber and have never shot anyone with it.

It is nice the caliber has more options now for shooters, if I was going into a firefight I would do the research and see what all those fancy hollow point bullets would do for me, but 1-2 rds. of the ol' 230 FMJ seems to have worked for the US Military.

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