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30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? #11460999 09/25/16
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,703 S.E.Indiana J JimH OP Campfire Regular
OP JimH Campfire Regular J Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,703 S.E.Indiana	Loading for a couple of Marlin 336's-20 & 24" bbl's.I have a variety of powders available and am looking for suggestions,along with opinions on the 130's performance on deer.Thanks!

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Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11461005 09/25/16
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doctor_Encore Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,761 west of the Chesapeake Bay	Jim, I am loading the Sierra 125 gr HP along with the Speer 130 gr flat point in a Marlin model 30 (Glenfield series) with a 20 inch barrel. The two most accurate powders are Hodgdon "LVR"with the Speer 130 gr and CFE223 with the Sierra 125 gr. Both loads are under 1 inch in my rifle for 3 shots. I load 42.0 of LVR with the Speer 0 gr and 36.3 of CFE223 with the Sierra 125 gr. For what ever reason the Speer bullet impacts 13 inches higher on paper than the CFE223 and 125 gr. Sierra. I will be using the 125 gr sierra this year so I don't have a bullets performance report for you. Doc

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11471709 09/30/16
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas	I shot a feral hog in the neck with a 130 grain Speer on top of a hot load of 3031, killed the hog but angled into the far shoulder and didn't exit, found mostly in classic mushroom shape but it did hit some bone. Dog I rescued in January

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11471763 09/30/16
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efw Campfire Ranger E Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 29,625 Mi.	Alliant's online guide has several loads listed; Hodgdon's also.

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11472025 09/30/16
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OP JimH Campfire Regular J Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,703 S.E.Indiana	Thanks to all!

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Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11472166 09/30/16
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woods_walker Campfire Tracker W Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 3,034 Kentucky	Not a Gunwriter... A sample of one. I used 36.0 grains of W748 with this load. Shot this Doe at about 40 yards tight behind the shoulder and she ran just far enough to make it over over the ridge top (20 yards or so) and then collapsed sliding down the offside to make me work to get her out. Bullet exited. I plan to experiment with Varget for future load development.

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11472228 09/30/16
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bcraig Campfire Tracker B Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,273 eastern arkansas	http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/3030again.htm Faster horses,Younger women,Older Whiskey,More money

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? bcraig #11472254 09/30/16
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woods_walker Campfire Tracker W Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 3,034 Kentucky	That was a good read.

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? woods_walker #11472276 09/30/16
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,703 S.E.Indiana J JimH OP Campfire Regular
OP JimH Campfire Regular J Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,703 S.E.Indiana	Originally Posted by woods_walker That was a good read. Indeed it was! Woods Walker,I have the exact same 336A with a Leupold 4x.

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11472668 09/30/16
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Joe Campfire Tracker J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,609 Louisiana-U.S.A.	Originally Posted by JimH Originally Posted by woods_walker That was a good read. Indeed it was! Woods Walker,I have the exact same 336A with a Leupold 4x. Mine wears a Texas made Weaver K3. Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths. "there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser" "the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"

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Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11473221 10/01/16
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woods_walker Campfire Tracker W Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 3,034 Kentucky	Mine is currently wearing a set of the XS Sights.

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11475635 10/02/16
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Bob_B257 Campfire Regular B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 950 Southern New England	Woods, that is a sweet set up. The one I own has an early Lyman peep. Fun is the operative word. Bcraig Thanks for the article on loading the 30-30. Good read. Eep the idea of trimming the 110 flat for the varmint role. A whole new set of possible uses in the off season. I used to only shoot shotguns and rimfires, then I made the mistake of getting a subscription to handloader.......

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11480497 10/04/16
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300_savage Campfire Regular 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,139	Regarding the link....some of Paco's .30-30 Improved loads seem a bit warm...and certainly don't follow the 4:1 rule of Mule Deer's for the relationship of increased case capacity and resultant velocity increase. I have Sam Fadala's book on the 94 Winchester...and felt the same regarding some of his loads. I like .30-30s, but have never felt the need to hot rod them. Last edited by 300_savage; 10/04/16.

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11480851 10/04/16
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Klikitarik Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 17,491 Alaska - N63º, W162º	After poking a big Alaskan river otter with a 'light' bullet for the 30-30 and having it come to rest in the elbow as shrapnel, never penetrating the back side of the animal, I decided to simply run 170 Corelocts and not worry anymore. (Too bad, those 130 Hot-Cors shot very well, and fast, in my M94s.) Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.

Re: 30/30 130 gr. Speer loads? JimH #11488621 10/07/16
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MLC Campfire Regular M Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,108 Mississippi	I thinking about getting a 30/30 MGM barrel for my T/C pro hunter. Does anybody have experience with what grain bullet and powder would be good for this? Last edited by MLC; 10/08/16. Any politician who thinks they can fight the evil that has consumed the government is delusional or lying. There is no political solution. "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Church

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