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I am an admitted high fence bigot, paying for a guide or access is drastically different than a high fence put and take elk hunt. I've hunted pigs on a pay access ranch, Tejon, but it was 200,000 + acres and doesn't have a high fence. Since they have elk there that they charge up to $25K for i would guess the cowboys keep a close eye on them but can't keep them in if they really want to leave. The pig hunt had no guarantees and no captive breeding program that I'm aware of, although the mtn lion killing the ranch did years ago must have helped the numbers of pigs.

Back to analogies that Trump can't use anymore, dating the rich girl and buying expensive French or maybe Thai meals isn't the same as paying the lady of the evening .........that chance of failure is still very real no matter what dinner costs.

Paying outfitters and for taxidermy is fine with me, the wife of almost 30 years lets me hang a couple of elk and a pheasant in the front room and wants to go on safari one of these days.

Paying to hunt at a yellow tag in the ear high fence facility does seem a lot like a romantic transaction in a back alley to me.

I am simply looking on with slight amusement as useful discussion is had knowing that anything I write is unlikely to change anyone's mind.

In my opinion the world of hunting is a big place with room for all sorts but if I'm not mistaken some on this thread deriding our hunt were the same folks making fun of Paddler for his stand that grouse are only shot over a pointer (on Tuesday with a side by side 28 gauge but it must have double triggers and the pointer has to be a GSP or you're just a slob)

When we wrote up the story we were accurate with what we experienced. Clearly, others had other experiences and just as clearly some were offended by our great time.

For what it's worth I worked harder for this elk than I did for my Newfoundland Moose two years ago but Newfoundland is an island of 42,031 sq mi so I suppose it was a "high fence" too. Guess it just depends where one draws the line and that to me is a personal line.

For crying out loud - you never cease to amaze.
Refresh our memories - what was your nickname in HS?

no sir, not at you, just one of the others

Ergo my comment MABY posts ago. If any one of us here on this forum were to announce we walk on water, the usual suspects would chime in saying "yeah, that's because you can't swim.". Fouc them

.. or maybe he simply enjoyed the hunt.

Want to go again. I had fun!

That is a different subject. Don't tell me an enjoyable hunt is the same as a successful hunt. I enjoy every hunt I go on. But many are unsuccessful. Otherwise I would not go out hunting again.

A big negative on that RM......big negative.

I've hunted my butt off for 9 days chasing big mule deer, and didn't kill anything. Those hunts are hardly failures in my book, but you often live in a different world than I do.

Spot on...anyone who signs up for a guided high fence should be out for a party, a wall decoration for whatever.

No doubt there are two different groups of "hunters" in this conversation.

I will be hunting public land in SW MT on Sat. I expect to see a bunch of hunters ,,some elk,,lots of out of staters.

But I will be hunting elk ,,,not [bleep] around.. and I have a good chance to kill a bull...whatever bull

The only more in inconsistent person than you is running for president on the Democratic ticket. They should name a waffle for you at IHOP!

Then you're doing it wrong. Are you, per chance, related to fireball? Or perhaps drink from the same well water?

IME moose are pretty easy to hunt. The fact your guide ran you all over heck doesn't mean it's not a canned hunt.

I see.
So when it is you it is 'unsuccessful' when it is BWalker it is 'failed'.
That might be even be called "rationalizing".

If the objective was to get away from everyday life and have fun using the hunt as an excuse, I agree. If you take 9 days off to go hunt and don't kill something, it is a failure.

You're now twice as wrong as you were in the first place.

Words mean things. I guess you your objective while hunting is no to take a game animal. Mine is. Whether I get something or not I still enjoy the hunt, but I'm not silly enough to claim the hunt was successful.

Who is doing the hunting is irrelevant. When the objective is to kill something and you don' you failed or were unsuccessful. In this case the words are synonyms.

You're an idiot

I still think it's funny that some posters are saying other posters are crapping on some of the shooters that bought livestock at this place. Again this is a separate thread from the other thread. I haven't read the other thread so idk if anyone is crapping on that thread or not. But if the shooters want to come on this thread and defend the place then that's on them.

As for not being able to get closer then 300 yards without them running off, the cattle where I hunt are the same. They start running and spook the deer. It really pisses me off. But I'm not ignorant enough to call those cattle anything besides livestock just because they spook.

It's a shame how many people think a high fence shoot is the same as a hunt where the animals are wild. Glad I got to take my boy out this last weekend on an elk hunt where they are truly wild. I pray that he never feels that a high fence shoot is the same as a truly free range hunt.