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My wife and I spent the first week of October with good friends on the Eastern plains of Colorado. Breaking bread and tossing down a beer or two we shared storing from the past and made plans for our future.

Yes.... chasing anyelope and shooting prairie dogs also happened that week and....

Antelope died
Prairie dogs died

But the measure of success is never in the animal talley or the total of any score sheet.

I'm glad I don't share a camp with someone who thinks a trip is not a success unless a tag is "filled"


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Originally Posted by huntsonora
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If the objective was to get away from everyday life and have fun using the hunt as an excuse, I agree. If you take 9 days off to go hunt and don't kill something, it is a failure.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Lastly, I really enjoyed the prostitute analogy and one I can comment on smile . Like all hunting, I've done both, from hunting bear alone in the Maine wilderness, to deer and hogs here in the south, to the ultimate wilderness of Africa (with a PH of course) and on the female chase side, culminating in courting and marrying my lovely wife of 34 years.

But, I would not be honest to say , those of you that have not been to such paradises like Olongapo in the "PI" or Patya Beach in Thailand, let's just say you have no idea....



Jorge, There are a lot of ways to have fun in Thailand, but of the women in your life, which one are you the most proud of, The ones you paid for, or the one you earned?


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Ringman is a known dumbphuck of the 'fire, whether it be using his rifle scope as a spotter or burning out a barrel trying to conduct a ladder test.



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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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Originally Posted by 458Win
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Lastly, I really enjoyed the prostitute analogy and one I can comment on smile . Like all hunting, I've done both, from hunting bear alone in the Maine wilderness, to deer and hogs here in the south, to the ultimate wilderness of Africa (with a PH of course) and on the female chase side, culminating in courting and marrying my lovely wife of 34 years.

But, I would not be honest to say , those of you that have not been to such paradises like Olongapo in the "PI" or Patya Beach in Thailand, let's just say you have no idea....



Jorge, There are a lot of ways to have fun in Thailand, but of the women in your life, which one are you the most proud of, The ones you paid for, or the one you earned?


I'll not "objectify" the wife for obvious reasons, but as far as "pride" goes, not an emotion I associate with chicks, but I must confess the chicks in Olongapo and Thailand were a lot more fun with none of the hassles... smile




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Thanks for your input, I'm sure you're a first class DIY/Public land Jeremiah Johnson, I'm just not that talented. BTW, the cattle where we hunted err sorry "shot" did not spook when we went by them. Guess they're smarter than the cattle over where you "hunt".


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Nope just an average hunter. Not a shooter. I actually don't even kill that many animals. But when I do they are actually wild. Not pen raised. Glad you are proud of being able to sneak into 300 yards on a farm bull. I bet it took a lot of skill.

I just did a hunt I think most of your group could handle. It took me 2 days of actual hunting to fill my tag. And my 8 year old boy tagged along the entire time. So physically I think you guys have a chance. Now these aren't pen raised and are actually wild. So you will still probably need a guide. And your not buying antlers to place on the wall. But you do get meat from the cow and it's an actual hunt. Not a shoot. If you want info on it just PM me.

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Originally Posted by tuff
I still think it's funny that some posters are saying other posters are crapping on some of the shooters that bought livestock at this place.


I was the one who said that the OP was crapping on Jorge's posts about his trip. Crapping on the posts, not "the shooters."

And I'll say it again, making a post like the OP and then disappearing is chickensh^^.

If jorge hadn't posted about it, the OP never would have chimed in, so yes, he was crapping on jorge's posts.

Whether you agree or disagree with the OP's opinions on canned hunts is an entirely different matter.



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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Like all hunting, I've done both, from hunting bear alone in the Maine wilderness, to deer and hogs here in the south, to the ultimate wilderness of Africa....


jorge, isn't it a little disingenuous to say that you don't have time for a wilderness elk hunt out west when you've made the trip overseas to hunt Africa?



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Originally Posted by smokepole
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Like all hunting, I've done both, from hunting bear alone in the Maine wilderness, to deer and hogs here in the south, to the ultimate wilderness of Africa....


jorge, isn't it a little disingenuous to say that you don't have time for a wilderness elk hunt out west when you've made the trip overseas to hunt Africa?


No sir, I was active duty back then and had LOTS of leave. Nowadays being a working stiff, I only get two weeks (ten days).


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Actually it was 330, but what's 30 yards among friends. I glad you enjoyed your cow hunt with your son. I always have when I used to take my son when he was that age. So glad you shot your cow.


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My apologies.



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No need sir.


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I can't decide which is more pathetic, complaining about a 100% success CANNED hunt or bragging about it.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Like all hunting, I've done both, from hunting bear alone in the Maine wilderness, to deer and hogs here in the south, to the ultimate wilderness of Africa....


jorge, isn't it a little disingenuous to say that you don't have time for a wilderness elk hunt out west when you've made the trip overseas to hunt Africa?


No sir, I was active duty back then and had LOTS of leave. Nowadays being a working stiff, I only get two weeks (ten days).

For some one with your rank and expiereance such little time off is a joke.
I have nearly five weeks and will have nearly six after next year and I have only been with my employer for 6 years.

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Well, it is what it is. As a contractor, when firms change and I stay, the clock starts over.


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Lastly, I really enjoyed the prostitute analogy and one I can comment on smile . Like all hunting, I've done both, from hunting bear alone in the Maine wilderness, to deer and hogs here in the south, to the ultimate wilderness of Africa (with a PH of course) and on the female chase side, culminating in courting and marrying my lovely wife of 34 years.

But, I would not be honest to say , those of you that have not been to such paradises like Olongapo in the "PI" or Patya Beach in Thailand, let's just say you have no idea....



Jorge, There are a lot of ways to have fun in Thailand, but of the women in your life, which one are you the most proud of, The ones you paid for, or the one you earned?


I'll not "objectify" the wife for obvious reasons, but as far as "pride" goes, not an emotion I associate with chicks, but I must confess the chicks in Olongapo and Thailand were a lot more fun with none of the hassles... smile




That is a fair & honest answer to a loaded question. All of us who hunt for sport do it for personal reasons and, like all other ethical choices, there is no delineating line between right and wrong.


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Originally Posted by bellydeep
Ringman is a known dumbphuck of the 'fire, whether it be using his rifle scope as a spotter or burning out a barrel trying to conduct a ladder test.



At least its consistent, you read a post and think, that [bleep] couldn't post something stupider than that, but the next day you read another post, and viola, the bar got lowered..=

If you want to go shoot a farm raised elk behind a fence, knock yourself out. Just don't call it hunting, its not..

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