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Well they were lined up at the bank to get their 1000 bucks this morin'...it was everything I could do not to say ...go up to the 3rd floor and ask the State folks for the other 50% !! ..that they took ! The UofAlaska a got a 5 to 7.4% budget cut...u and me 50%….... To top it off the state stuck it in a budget savings account....I could have just as well stuck it my savings account


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The reps here are running ads to get reelected, saying we did what we could do ..while keeping all the services they could provide... F-ing services... I use not a one! He!l Dot don't plow the roads till 8am here, I've plowed my way to town more than a few times...


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down here we've paid property tax to educate I dunno how many kids... never had a single kid of our own....

Government sure can figure out how to screw folks, redistribute, and fatten their own pockets at the same time...


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My question is, are we gonna get raped by the ferals for the full amount come tax time?


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The best part of Walker's move is the fact he just guaranteed he is a one-termer and Mallott is politically dead...

Or at least I hope so!


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Who is Mallott?

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Its not going over at the banks in town low and slow....their will be something coming up about it ....


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Originally Posted by stevelyn
My question is, are we gonna get raped by the ferals for the full amount come tax time?
. Just got the pfd paperwork last nite ..they don't list the missing 1000 in coulum with the " check reduced by felons etc" ..line. Take alookat its in the mail now...

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Time to give the oil companies the boot, or make them pump more oil. Actually, we should just throw the damned vultures out. All they want to do is get rich with our resources.


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The state just needs to up spending.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
The state just needs to up spending.


Nothing better than spending your way out of a slump!!!


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We still have our obamacare. Thank you Walker voters. grin



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Originally Posted by Klikitarik
Time to give the oil companies the boot, or make them pump more oil. Actually, we should just throw the damned vultures out. All they want to do is get rich with our resources.


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I am sure throwing them out would surely solve Alaska's issues.


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Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by Klikitarik
Time to give the oil companies the boot, or make them pump more oil. Actually, we should just throw the damned vultures out. All they want to do is get rich with our resources.


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I am sure throwing them out would surely solve Alaska's issues.


Right?!!! wink

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(we need we need we need) fine this time what happens next year and 5 years down the road. They manage their finances like a 5 year old. Love to see Walker run again, like to see him squirm while he explains his actions.
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If the PFD gets reduced enough, perhaps the Hold Harmless Clause won't apply.

The Hold Harmless Clause is where they deduct money from my PFD to re-compensate those that get their social services reduced because they made too much money in PFD month.

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Originally Posted by VernAK
If the PFD gets reduced enough, perhaps the Hold Harmless Clause won't apply.

The Hold Harmless Clause is where they deduct money from my PFD to re-compensate those that get their social services reduced because they made too much money in PFD month.


I had forgotten that little gem...


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We don't get to see that deduction with direct deposit PFD.

This almost sounds like the Zobels dreamed it up.

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I've ran in a number or our so called leaders... They say ...how u doing...I say I'd be doing better if I had the other half of my pfd ...then I turn and walk ...my timing is down to near perfect !


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I thought you were a big fan of walker?


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IIRC did they set your PFD to a maximum amount and "bank the rest"?


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They let Ruger decide this year. It's 10/22.

Next year I've heard they're going to let Remington decide, so I'm guessing we'll either see 700 or 870. eek


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I'm pissed that basically nothing was cut from the state budget prior to this happening. Also, that this was pretty much was for show only, since the 600M vetoed can't be used by the state for spending, it just doesn't get paid out.


However, should ANY revenue source (a last resort when state budget is actually within norms) be used, I'd rather it be the PFD, rather than any other source.

The Permanent Fund Dividend, is a fun paid out from the investment earnings of a Permanent capital fund investment. It is not the Permanent Dividend Fund. Like any other investment, the dividends pay out some years, and don't some.

Using the PFD earnings as a source of revenue only hurts poor thinking individuals who counted on an investment of which they have no control to subsidize their lifestyle. If you rely on the dividend for your lifestyle, that is YOUR fault.

Use of the PFD as a tax base is more fair than an income, or sales tax. It affect all of us equally (assuming you didn't make any stupid decisions). I pay income tax. I pay sales tax. I pay property tax. Don't let the most expensive sector of Alaska get off with no contribution.

I must reiterate... I don't think that the state budget was cut enough, and I don't think that the revenue from the PF should have been tapped until Juneau gets it's [bleep] together.


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Originally Posted by LoadClear
I'm pissed that basically nothing was cut from the state budget prior to this happening. Also, that this was pretty much was for show only, since the 600M vetoed can't be used by the state for spending, it just doesn't get paid out.


However, should ANY revenue source (a last resort when state budget is actually within norms) be used, I'd rather it be the PFD, rather than any other source.

The Permanent Fund Dividend, is a fun paid out from the investment earnings of a Permanent capital fund investment. It is not the Permanent Dividend Fund. Like any other investment, the dividends pay out some years, and don't some.

Using the PFD earnings as a source of revenue only hurts poor thinking individuals who counted on an investment of which they have no control to subsidize their lifestyle. If you rely on the dividend for your lifestyle, that is YOUR fault.

Use of the PFD as a tax base is more fair than an income, or sales tax. It affect all of us equally (assuming you didn't make any stupid decisions). I pay income tax. I pay sales tax. I pay property tax. Don't let the most expensive sector of Alaska get off with no contribution.

I must reiterate... I don't think that the state budget was cut enough, and I don't think that the revenue from the PF should have been tapped until Juneau gets it's [bleep] together.


I agree with just about everything you said!


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Originally Posted by LoadClear
I'm pissed that basically nothing was cut from the state budget prior to this happening. Also, that this was pretty much was for show only, since the 600M vetoed can't be used by the state for spending, it just doesn't get paid out.


However, should ANY revenue source (a last resort when state budget is actually within norms) be used, I'd rather it be the PFD, rather than any other source.

The Permanent Fund Dividend, is a fun paid out from the investment earnings of a Permanent capital fund investment. It is not the Permanent Dividend Fund. Like any other investment, the dividends pay out some years, and don't some.

Using the PFD earnings as a source of revenue only hurts poor thinking individuals who counted on an investment of which they have no control to subsidize their lifestyle. If you rely on the dividend for your lifestyle, that is YOUR fault.

Use of the PFD as a tax base is more fair than an income, or sales tax. It affect all of us equally (assuming you didn't make any stupid decisions). I pay income tax. I pay sales tax. I pay property tax. Don't let the most expensive sector of Alaska get off with no contribution.

I must reiterate... I don't think that the state budget was cut enough, and I don't think that the revenue from the PF should have been tapped until Juneau gets it's [bleep] together.


Cut a budget? Make Juneau get its [bleep] together? How much you been drinkin')?


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Maybe a special session where they can only vote on stuff that won't directly affect their own constituents would be one way to get some stuff cut? Probably wouldn't make much difference, but we'd sure find out who were good at scratching others' backs most effectively.


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Originally Posted by LoadClear
I'm pissed that basically nothing was cut from the state budget prior to this happening. Also, that this was pretty much was for show only, since the 600M vetoed can't be used by the state for spending, it just doesn't get paid out.


However, should ANY revenue source (a last resort when state budget is actually within norms) be used, I'd rather it be the PFD, rather than any other source.

The Permanent Fund Dividend, is a fun paid out from the investment earnings of a Permanent capital fund investment. It is not the Permanent Dividend Fund. Like any other investment, the dividends pay out some years, and don't some.

Using the PFD earnings as a source of revenue only hurts poor thinking individuals who counted on an investment of which they have no control to subsidize their lifestyle. If you rely on the dividend for your lifestyle, that is YOUR fault.

Use of the PFD as a tax base is more fair than an income, or sales tax. It affect all of us equally (assuming you didn't make any stupid decisions). I pay income tax. I pay sales tax. I pay property tax. Don't let the most expensive sector of Alaska get off with no contribution.

I must reiterate... I don't think that the state budget was cut enough, and I don't think that the revenue from the PF should have been tapped until Juneau gets it's [bleep] together.


Nailed it!

I had an opportunity to talk to representative Reinbold a few weeks ago. She's one of the few that gets it and thinks like reasonable rational Alaskans. She said the good ole boy network down there is just nauseating, which is why they're trying their darndest to get someone to take her seat.

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Originally Posted by Klikitarik
Maybe a special session where they can only vote on stuff that won't directly affect their own constituents...



...and they don't get per diem payments for working on the ONLY F&$*ING thing that they needed to do during the regular session but just couldn't find the time. http://www.adn.com/politics/article...tures-overtime-session-12500/2016/04/22/


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Say it with feeling!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Originally Posted by watch4bear


Interesting read... noted especially thay Sullivan's right-hand man is teamed with Bagitch's babe... Makes it easier to dislike Sullivan...


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Thanks for the link, W4B.

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...and former Senator Mark Begich’s spokeswoman Heather Handyside...
Also was Scott McAdams' aide.

Now I understand why Joe is running a lot of PFD ads.



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Originally Posted by ironbender
Thanks for the link, W4B.

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...and former Senator Mark Begich’s spokeswoman Heather Handyside...
Also was Scott McAdams' aide.

Now I understand why Joe is running a lot of PFD ads.



Thanks for hammering me with the obvious...

I need to drink more of your beer...


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