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Problem is, bulls get shot as soon as they are deemed legal. It's been that way since as long as I've been hunting in this area. That said, I won't be one bit surprised if we see several 4 or 4+ brow time bulls in there next year. In their third year a bull usually has all the brow tines he ever will have... minor points may come up later, but not usually. Could you cite your sources?? Every study on deer, everywhere... But one in hand is "Antler Development in Cervidae" page 42-44 in a paper by Vince Van Ballenberghe. Year to year changes in antler formation are minor and it is amazing how similar they are from year to year.
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Problem is, bulls get shot as soon as they are deemed legal. It's been that way since as long as I've been hunting in this area. That said, I won't be one bit surprised if we see several 4 or 4+ brow time bulls in there next year. In their third year a bull usually has all the brow tines he ever will have... minor points may come up later, but not usually. Could you cite your sources?? Every study on deer, everywhere... But one in hand is "Antler Development in Cervidae" page 42-44 in a paper by Vince Van Ballenberghe. Year to year changes in antler formation are minor and it is amazing how similar they are from year to year. Im having a hard time finding anywhere where it even remotely mentions regarding moose that they will have most their brow tines at 3 years old. Year to year changes can be dramatic in both size and characteristics. There are no rules when in regards to antler development.
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Congrats! Great looking bull. Good eats
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Width? I'd guess about 67".
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Problem is, bulls get shot as soon as they are deemed legal. It's been that way since as long as I've been hunting in this area. That said, I won't be one bit surprised if we see several 4 or 4+ brow time bulls in there next year. In their third year a bull usually has all the brow tines he ever will have... minor points may come up later, but not usually. Could you cite your sources?? Every study on deer, everywhere... But one in hand is "Antler Development in Cervidae" page 42-44 in a paper by Vince Van Ballenberghe. Year to year changes in antler formation are minor and it is amazing how similar they are from year to year. Im having a hard time finding anywhere where it even remotely mentions regarding moose that they will have most their brow tines at 3 years old. Year to year changes can be dramatic in both size and characteristics. There are no rules when in regards to antler development. Your inability to find references is no indication of the lack thereof. I gave you a citation for a paper written by Van Ballenberghe and could also point you to several others. It is out there.
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You got a good one for sure. Good for you. I miss hunting up there.
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NICE ! Imported the pics for you.
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You got a good one for sure. Good for you. I miss hunting up there. We're just a plane ride away!
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Yeah, that's real common where we hunt. Select against more brow tines for a couple decades and see what happens. I've been doing my part!!!
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Congratulations, looks like a huge one to me. I am 65 years old and in vg shape. Have never hunted moose but seriously thinking about it in 2017. I better get it done soon or I'll be too old. Phug that too old crap. I'm 68.. I'm thinking at least one more old and slow sheep hunt.... . Moose are easy. Until you shoot. But then there is all the time in the world- up to 4 days. Unless Griz shows up. Then shoot twice...
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What SD said on brow-tine. I think (my reference book is 600 miles south), what a bull has for brow tines in it's 3rd year is it is mentioned in "Ecology and Management of North American Moose". I have watched two different bulls from yearlings to 5 years old. What they had in 3rd year was what they had in 4th and 5th year (both 2X2). Both were marginal 50" legal in year 5 and I didn't dare shoot. (50 inch or 3 brow tines on one side regs. I hunted the same two roughly one square miles - 5 miles apart - every year for 25+ years. I had a pretty good handle on the moose there) On one, I didn't moose hunt the 6th year at all, and never saw him again. On the other, I also never saw him again, having shot a different bull year 6. Some other basted shot them both!!!! I think. And they were named, dammit!!!....
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What SD said on brow-tine. I think (my reference book is 600 miles south), what a bull has for brow tines in it's 3rd year is it is mentioned in "Ecology and Management of North American Moose". I have watched two different bulls from yearlings to 5 years old. What they had in 3rd year was what they had in 4th and 5th year (both 2X2). Both were marginal 50" legal in year 5 and I didn't dare shoot. (50 inch or 3 brow tines on one side regs. I hunted the same two roughly one square miles - 5 miles apart - every year for 25+ years. I had a pretty good handle on the moose there) On one, I didn't moose hunt the 6th year at all, and never saw him again. On the other, I also never saw him again, having shot a different bull year 6. Some other basted shot them both!!!! I think. And they were named, dammit!!!.... The only researchers that found it true were the ones that studied it...
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Thanks for posting, beautiful bull AkMtnHtr!
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That would be the bull of a lifetime to me, or truck. Dayom.
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