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one know any bullet hole is at the top or the bottom of the rifle's group ?


Easy. Examine the target after each shot and number each placement.


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one know any bullet hole is at the top or the bottom of the rifle's group ?


Easy. Examine the target after each shot and number each placement.


Sorry. Wrong question. How does one know if the bullet hole is at the top or the bottom of the node?


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How does one know if the bullet hole is at the top or the bottom of the node?


To partially quote a relatively famous person, "what difference does it make?"

As long as it's consistent, one will secure a high level of precision and accuracy if he dials it in.


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one know any bullet hole is at the top or the bottom of the rifle's group ?


Easy. Examine the target after each shot and number each placement.


Sorry. Wrong question. How does one know if the bullet hole is at the top or the bottom of the node?

To that question, not sure there is an answer.

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Doesn't make a damn bit of difference whether top or bottom....as long as the bullet goes where you want it!!


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It would make more sense to shoot groups from the top of a Ladder that to shoot a ladder it's truly on of the stupidest things I have ever heard of.

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Originally Posted by Ringman
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one know any bullet hole is at the top or the bottom of the rifle's group ?


Easy. Examine the target after each shot and number each placement.


Sorry. Wrong question. How does one know if the bullet hole is at the top or the bottom of the node?


I struggled with this question as well. As a result, I have begun to use a hybrid of the OCW and ladder methods. I load three of each charge and shoot them at the same POA at 500 yards. I then mark the center of each group. I compare the center of each group and where they cluster together from consecutive increases in charge is what I go with.

I have seen at the upper end of a node, a group where two are close together, putting two right in there with the lesser charges, but the third being way out. When that happens, I don't choose the charge with the flyer. So far I've not seen a charge with the flyer in the middle of what would otherwise be a good node, but only on the upper or lower end of a node.

So far, this method is working pretty well. I used it to find a couple of load that are grouping 2" or less at 500 yards in my 6.5x47 Lapua.

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Hondo64d,

I have a new barrel getting threaded for a brake. When I get it I will give your system a try.


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