Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Why has the 7Rmag lost its popularity??

His was deader.

Show me where I said I'd do that.

What I said was "If the .300 WM won't do the job I'll take my .338 WM over a .300 WBY." That's a far cry from saying I'd laod a .300 WBY to .300WM levels.

Your reading comprehension problem is showing again.

I killed one at 625 yds. with the 7-08 once. Truth is, I never shoot that far at deer, and the 7-08 will reach as far as I will ever need/want it to......

Only you would load a 300 Win to 300 WBY levels

Biggest reason imho is the tacti-fahgs don't like it. They want to go the municipal range and pretend they are Chris Kyle...tough to do that with a cartridge not used by the military.

Because it's a mm.

I think the military's adoption of the .300 Win Mag has had a lot to do with pushing the 300 over the 7mm.

IMO -- I doubt that.

Jerry

Anybody know why they went with the 300?

7mm seems like a better sniper round.

I thought the same thing but we know the US Gov't is attached to 7.62mm.

220 SMK at 2,850 looks like a pile driver.

Lots of veterans used to the 223 or tactical wannabes out there think of a 308 as a powerful longer range capable round. Honestly with the right bullets and good shooting it is just that. The fact that you can buy them much cheaper than other center fire rounds only helps, the 30-06 falls in that category of cheaper ammo too.

The 300 and 338 Lapua in use as sniper rounds have that attraction too. And they carry more power at longer ranges than the 7mm in almost any flavor. The 6.5 is the new darling of the long range guys and if you want cutting edge ballistic you can go with Nobler, Lazzeroni, the Rum's or 30-378 Bee.

The 7 predated the lrf and gave you point and shoot to about 350 yards on a deer, that was significant to open country hunters. Today with the availability to range over 1000 yards and dial reasonably priced scopes or calibrate drop to reticles that advantage isn't nearly as important.

I told a younger guy that I had started out with a 7mm and always considered the 308 as kind of a piss ant caliber for hunting and you'd have thought I'd slapped him.

I don't know what people use in the 308 but a velocity advantage is a velocity advantage;that goes for a trajectory advantage as well.

If the 7 Rem Mag were not an effective long range cartridge you would not see so many people stuffing them with VLD bullets and shooting at distance with them.

I have never been in an open country hunting situation where a flat trajectory and high velocity were not distinct advantages, rangefinder or not. This is because (a) LRF's don't always work, and (b) not all animals stand around waiting to be lazed while we fumble with rangefinders.

Bob I'm tempted to say.....

or Binos.

But I won't lol


Jerry

Plenty popular at my house. I have 5 of them.

I was at the dentist the other day and read an article in Petersen's Hunting by a guy whose name (IIRC) was Joseph something. He said that very recently the .300 WinMag has over taken the 7RM in sales which was pretty shocking to me.

I've always had a 30-06 and didn't see a use in me having a 7RM or .300 WM, but several of the men I know who have only one rifle (and fit the proverb with regards to caution with such a man) swear by it and their success afield bears witness to their well placed faith in it.

I would immediately suggest that the long range hunting craze may be responsible for its decline, but that makes no sense if the .300 WM is what edged it out unless market saturation in great LR cartridges has given the 7RM more competition? I know I wouldn't choose the .300 WM over the 7RM for that purpose but I don't get all my ballistics knowledge from Petersens Hunting either...

I don't see where you could be wrong but my shoulder hurts just reading that.

A 7mm RM was my only bolt action big game rifle for 20+ years. Bought it because my mentor recommended it and ballistics suggested it took a 200g bullet (with significant additional recoil) to exceed the 7mm RM/160g combo.

Finally scratched the itch and got a .300 WM. I shoot 180g bullets in it and don't see much difference.

Hanco how can that be? It's losing popularity

Cause the 280 AI does the same thing, with less powder, more ammo in the magazine, and a 40 degree shoulder. Enough said.