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Disclaimer: I do not know the person selling the rifle nor the rifle. I thought others on this site might be interested and that is why I posed it. http://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/threads/fs-winchester-model-70-featherweight-pre-1964.1279365/Item Name: FS Winchester Model 70-Featherweight (Pre-1964) Location: Gainesville, GA (Northeast of Atlanta) Zip Code: 30501 Item is for: Sale Only Sale Price: $1675.00 (just reduced!) Caliber: .358 Willing to Ship: No Bill of Sale Required?: No Item Description: .358 Caliber - 22" barrel - Manufactured in 1955 Stock has had a Limbsaver recoil pad added A wood dowel has been placed behind recoil lug. Comes with a vintage Redfield widefield 3 x 9 scope Includes loading dies, brass and factory ammunition
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That "358" stamp looks fake to me. I may be wrong, but it doesn't look right...
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Here is that picture of the 358 M 70
Sure it is..
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I looked at my M70 caliber stamping on my rifle and it's about the same as that one. Better pictures please. 358 m70
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The lettering appears to have been buffed and the number 5 looks to be stamped deeper than the 3 and the 8. Also the finish on the receiver doesn't look right, the whole rifle may have been reblued. Better pics would help, but going on those in the ad I would say "buyer beware".
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The lettering appears to have been buffed and the number 5 looks to be stamped deeper than the 3 and the 8. Also the finish on the receiver doesn't look right, the whole rifle may have been reblued. Better pics would help, but going on those in the ad I would say "buyer beware". Finally we agree on something...
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Absolutely a rebuild. Refinished receiver, barrel lettering smeared. Probably a .308 rebored to .358.........number 5 looks off to me too.
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If it weren't for guys like you, rifles like this wouldn't get sold/bought...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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What years were the 358 guns built?
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1955-57 1848 produced. A legit 358FWT would easily bring close to 3X the asking price of this specimen.
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Here is the picture above of it's receiver. That rifle looks original like mine but worn. It looks like a WORN receiver/rifle. Mine still has the original matte 'finish' on it and also it's barrel, bolt & floor-plate. [img] http://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/at...mp_hash=b77e8c2c756715d185309bf26c338221[/img]
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A very amateur attempt at faking a rare M/70, that said there are also fakes out there that even the most advanced collector would have a hard time spotting. Back in the late 70's early 80's Winchester sold some M/70 tooling, amoungst the items were barrel roll marking dies. These found their way into the hands of unscrupulous individuals that used them to produce barrels in rare calibers that were hard to distinguish from originals. Fortunately the fakers are long gone but those rifles remain, therefor when considering a rare caliber M/70 provenance is of utmost importance. There were a couple of dealers with big reputations involved in this, fortunately only one remains and his reputation is pretty well known in the collecting community.
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the 5 looks like it was stamped over a "0"
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That "358" stamp looks fake to me. I may be wrong, but it doesn't look right... Yup, that fugger is wonky as hell!
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It takes a lot of balls to try and pass this off as legit, some folks must not know 1600 bucks will get you a fine country ass stomping!
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Seems as if the fakes get almost as much play here as the authentic.
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It takes a lot of balls to try and pass this off as legit, some folks must not know 1600 bucks will get you a fine country ass stomping! Yes indeed it would... . I'm thinking since the price is so low, the seller has to know it's a fake....
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